From a death penalty protest in Missouri:
No fucking shit, genius. That is exactly what the death penalty is: The state is lawfully taking the life of a person.
Whether you are for capital punishment or against it, this sign is the legal terminology equivalent of holding up a sign that says "gasoline is flammable".
Both A Little Young, Methinks
42 minutes ago
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Is there some sort of law that prohibits the use of Heroin as a Death Penalty drug?
I have rarely heard of Heroin 'almost' killing someone. It seems to work fast and effectively at killing and it's not like the government has a shortage of it.
Even if they have a tolerance for opiates the dose can be adjusted to compensate.
It makes too much sense, I know.
w3ski
The protester probably thinks that 'homicide' is murderier than murder because it has more syllables.
It's similar to the phenomenon of screenwriters and journalists calling any handgun a 'revolver' even if it's Glock. More syllables demonstrate greater knowledge and thus confer greater authority.
w3ski, heroin is a schedule 1 drug. As far as I know, there are no legal uses for it. A doctor can't prescribe it, so a state prison couldn't procure it.
>>heroin is a schedule 1 drug. As far as I know, there are no legal uses for it. A doctor can't prescribe it, so a state prison couldn't procure it.,,
Yeah, but they could probably ask five of their prisoners and have ten different sources faster than any doc could rip a scrip off his prescription pad. The real objection to heroin is that it's a sin drug, whereas stuff that sets your veins on fire, paralyzes you and leaves you feeling you unable to breathe or struggle while you're slowly smothered to death – that stuff is legal.
The whole death penalty thing makes no sense. Moreover, in the five-to-ten percent or so of cases (estimated) where it turns out to be a bad conviction and an innocent prisoner is put to death, it's irreversible.
When prosecutors and cops by law will have to undergo the same punishment as "murderers" they've falsely accused and prosecuted to the point of execution, then I'll go along with capital punishment.
Until then "legal homicide" does indeed have meaning. Homicide is murder. It's like hiring a hit man to mow somebody down in the street and then giving him and yourself immunity because, well, the human-turned-corpse was a bad guy, too.
Very, very crankily yours,
The New York Crank
"Homicide. The killing of one human being by the act, procurement or omission of another."-- Black's Law Dictionary, 6th ed.
Homicide is not the same thing as murder. A self-defense killing is a homicide.
Cripes, NYC, you really want to get into an argument with a lawyer over this?
Uh, I don't want to get into one of those "My lawyer can beat up your lawyer" contests. But I can also refer you to criminal.findlaw.com which tells us that homicides are a violation of law which can lead to civil as well as criminal trials except that...
"Some homicides are not illegal. Criminal laws carve out exceptions for some killings which would otherwise fall under criminal laws against manslaughter or murder. These are referred to as "justified homicide". One primary example is a killing in justified self-defense or defense of someone else. Such a homicide is deemed justified if the situation called for self-defense and state law allows lethal force in that type of situation. Most state laws allow justified homicide to defend oneself or another from credible threat of serious crimes such as rape, armed robbery and murder. "
So you can assume that when the state executes somebody, that would be under the guise of "justified homicide," as opposed to ordinary homicide, same as when, say, somebody shoots a kid dead for wearing a hoodie and carrying a bag of skittles.
Let's stop here. I can debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and so can you, but each of us knows what the other means, so enough already.
Your very crankily,
The New York Crank
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