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"If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

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Who is Incapable of Understanding or Doing Anything About It." -- Unknown

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level
and then beat you with experience.” -- Mark Twain

"Stay Strapped or Get Clapped." -- probably not Mr. Rogers

"Let’s eat all of these people!” — Venom

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

Saturday, February 29, 2020

Trump Cynically Sells Out the Afghanis

The United States signed a historic deal with Taliban insurgents on Saturday that could pave the way toward a full withdrawal of foreign soldiers from Afghanistan over the next 14 months and represent a step toward ending the 18-year-war there.
The cynicism is pretending that the Taliban won't take over the country. The cynicism is that the government in Afghanistan was not a signatory to this agreement. The cynicism on the Right will come from their closing their eyes to this, a deal that if it had been made by President Obama, would have been denounced as a sellout by the very people who will now say that this is a good thing.

Let's not forget that the war was lost when Bush43 turned his back on Afghanistan so that he and Lord Cheney-Voldemort could go play Sand Invaders in Iraq. But that's a degree of neglect he came by honestly, as when his dad was president, he refused to help Afghanistan in any meaningful way once the Soviets left. That was all from the GOP's two tenets of what government is supposed to do: 1) Make the rich richer; and 2) Kill people.

The facts on the ground have pretty much mandated that we were going to leave and the Taliban was going to return to power. That's been obvious for the last fourteen years, if not longer. So one could argue that Trump is recognizing reality.

But spinning it as anything other than a sellout of the Afghan people who cast their lot with us is breathtakingly dishonest.


Glenn Kelley said...

How the Afgani operators and interpreters are treated will tell the tale .
If they are abandoned and refused visas .....

Comrade Misfit said...

Not a single one will get visas if Trump's immigration guy, Oberführer Miller, has anything to say about it.

seafury said...

Herr Mueller, I mean Miller will have a lot to say about it. He saw right through those rag heads for cripes sake. This'll teach em. Sorry channeling my inner base.

The New York Crank said...

We are about to do in Afghanistan what we did in Viet Nam — abandon those who supported us, fought with and for us, and sacrificed for us. What next? Will we find ourselves kicking desperate Afghanis off our helicopter skids, as we did in Saigon?

The word about American disloyalty to those who are loyal to us gets around. In the next war — and there is always a next war — we are likely to have far fewer friends. And a lot more enemies. Enlarged American body count to follow. Not that this should bother Mr. Trump or his family. I can almost guarantee that his bone spurs are hereditary.

Yours very crankily,
The New York Crank

Ten Bears said...

The Graveyard of Empires. Within a generation every empire that failed, failed.

I've been of a mind of late, Crank, that had they waited ten more years no one would remember.

And what about all that blood and treasure?

Charlie said...

1. We should never have been there in the first place.

2. The retaliation for 9-11 should have been limited to airborne annihilation.

3. The Afghan 'government' has not stepped up to the plate in any measurable way so why should we be anymore involved in this total waste of men and resources?

4. If obamy had done this you would be cheering.

Comrade Misfit said...


I agree with Nos. 1 and 2,

As to #4, you, sir, are delusional. You are invited to peruse about twelve years' worth of blog posts to prove otherwise.

Charlie said...

I just read through the search link you provided and saw not one word about obammy's actions or inactions in afghanistan.

So, perhaps I am not delusional.

B said...

At least Donald didn't give them a *billion* in unaccountable cash....(and, if rumors are true, get a kickback of a couple of percentage points on the delivered greenbacks).

If the Afghanis could have stood up, they might have a seat at the table. They can't and didn't get that seat, really.

I fully expect the Taliban't promises to be like any other middleasterners promise. Not worth the paper the treaty is written upon.

Comrade Misfit said...

You're delusional. I've been writing about this sort of ending for over a decade.

The cynical aspect is portraying this as anything than what it is. And you cannot, with a straight face, say that you would be doing anything other than carping if Obama had done it.

Unlike Vietnam, we won't be opening our doors to our friends who are fleeing the country. But this time, they'll be on their own when it comes to facing the vengeance of the Taliban.

Charlie said...

If obammy had left with no strings attached, I'd have said thank you.

But your post was not that you had been looking for this ending for years, your post was bashing President Trump for doing it.

Your cynical attitude is why I rarely stop in here anymore.

Ten Bears said...

Hard to afford someone a measure of credibility when their callsign is Charlie...

Comrade Misfit said...

I write what I want. My political views are my own.

You aren't paying me, Charlie. Don't let the storm door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Dark Avenger said...

Does middle easterners include Israel, B?