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"Never Feel Sorry For Anyone Who Owns an Airplane."-- Tina Marie

"
If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

"
Flying the Airplane is More Important than Radioing Your Plight to a Person on the Ground
Who is Incapable of Understanding or Doing Anything About It.
" -- Unknown

"There seems to be almost no problem that Congress cannot,
by diligent efforts and careful legislative drafting, make ten times worse.
" -- Me

"What the hell is an `Aluminum Falcon'?" -- Emperor Palpatine

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

Tuesday, November 29, 2016

The Constitution Is Just a Goddamned Piece of Paper as Far as Trump Is Concerned

President-elect Donald Trump said Tuesday that anyone who burns an American flag should face unspecified "consequences," such as jail or a loss of citizenship. But the Supreme Court has held that flag-burning is a form of speech protected by the First Amendment, and the Constitution forbids the government removal of citizenship for a natural-born American.
A reasonably savvy politician would first check to see if his or her utterings about a subject advocated anything that was forbidden. But not Trump, he just goes off with diarrhea of the mouth (or fingers, when he's on Twitter). Because his supporters will say "oh, that's just Donald".

Stripping citizenship of opponents or hated groups is a classic move of fascist and authoritarian nations.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

May I direct your attention to the Senate's 'Defense of the Flag' bill from 2005...co-sponsored by HRClinton.

Comrade Misfit said...

A source, please, that isn't Fox News or Breitbart. Not my job to research your assertions for you.

Anonymous said...

Here you are then.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/senate-bill/1911/text

and here's the story from CBS

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/11/29/hillary-clinton-flag-burners/

Freedom of speech and/or expression has never been absolute in any country in the world. One cannot incite others to violence, slander or libel a person or organization, utter death threats, counsel a person to commit suicide, etc.

Al_in_Ottawa

B said...

See: Neither candidate is worth a shit.

You just can't let your hate of Trump let you be rational about him.

Thank got we have laws and such to prevent such excesses even by well meaning idiots like either of them.....

Of course, Congress let Barry do so much without stopping him, I wonder what they will let the DOnald get away with....

At least the Press won't willingly go along, unlike how they did with Barry O.

dinthebeast said...

4 U.S. Code § 8

….(k)The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
(Added Pub. L. 105–225, § 2(a), Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1497.)

h/t: Show Me Progress

-Doug in Oakland

Comrade Misfit said...

AL, slight difference between being a Senator and being a President, but point taken.

B, you're veering into irrationality. Your guys have controlled both sides of the Congress since 2010. the Senate Republicans made blocking anything Obama wanted to do their number 1 priority in January, `09. The 112th Congress (2011-12) had a ratio of bills passed/bills introduced of .082. the 113th's ratio was .059.

Which is pretty freaking low.

(Source)

Anonymous said...

Trump is spouting seeming nonsense to bog people and the media down in debate and condemnation over positions he doesn't really hold (or may, but could care less about implementing in the short term).

It's the 'Hey, squirrel!' maneuver.

Comrade Misfit said...

Meanwhile, Trump is loading up his administration with billionaires, banksters, and right-wing trolls.

Let the pillaging begin!

B said...

"A poor man never gave anyone a job....."

and those who have degrees but no experience haven't done a good job either. At least not for the last 8 yearz or so