Seen on the street in Kyiv.

Words of Advice:

"If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

“The Mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” -- The TOFF *

"Foreign Relations Boil Down to Two Things: Talking With People or Killing Them." -- Unknown

“Speed is a poor substitute for accuracy.” -- Real, no-shit, fortune from a fortune cookie

"If you believe that you are talking to G-d, you can justify anything.” — my Dad

"Colt .45s; putting bad guys in the ground since 1873." -- Unknown

"Stay Strapped or Get Clapped." -- probably not Mr. Rogers

"The Dildo of Karma rarely comes lubed." -- Unknown

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

* "TOFF" = Treasonous Orange Fat Fuck, A/K/A Dolt-45,
A/K/A Commandante (or Cadet) Bone Spurs,
A/K/A El Caudillo de Mar-a-Lago, A/K/A the Asset., A/K/A P01135809

Monday, November 8, 2010

Same Tune, Different War

Cue up the Orchestra of Optimism:
The recent reports circulating in Washington’s national security establishment about the Afghan battleground of Marja show glimmerings of progress: bazaars are open, some 1,000 children are in school, and a new (and only) restaurant even serves goat curry and kebabs.

In Kandahar, NATO officials say that American and Afghan forces continue to rout the Taliban. In new statistics offered by American commanders in Kabul, Special Operations units have killed 339 midlevel Taliban commanders and 949 of the group’s foot soldiers in the past three months alone. At the Pentagon, the draft of a war assessment to be submitted to Congress this month cites a shift in momentum in some areas of the country away from the insurgency.

But as a new White House review of President Obama’s strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan gets under way, the rosy signs have opened an intense debate at the Defense Department, the White House, the State Department and the intelligence agencies over what they really mean.
Right. Anybody who doesn't remember the optimistic statements as the Iraq spun deeper into chaos between 2004 and 2007 hasn't been paying attention. Of course, some people do know this:
A former C.I.A. official with longtime experience in Afghanistan said that the recent statements about American progress in Afghanistan reminded him of what was sometimes written about the Russians before they began withdrawing from Afghanistan in defeat in 1988, when they had been at war there for nearly 10 years. “I don’t find many people I talk to who really believe any of this,” he said.
Governments always want to sell a rosy vision of the war's progress to their people, whether the government is a democracy, a monarchy or a dictatorship.

One might recall what Emperor Hirohito said to his nation after almost every Japanese city was burned to the ground by fire raids, the seas blockaded by mines and submarines, and two cities nuked: "The war has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage." Or one might recall the "Five O'clock Follies", where PR flacks for MACV kept handing out meaningless statistics of how many VC and NVA soldiers had been killed and how many tons of bombs had been dropped. All of which didn't mean a thing.

If we are not careful in Afghanistan, we are going to suffer a "light is at the end of the tunnel" moment, as happened in the Vietnam War.

8 comments:

S O said...

A) I want to see a photo of that "bazaar", for the satellite imagery doesn't even show a town. It's more an irrigation project development zone with scattered farm houses.

B) 1:3 is an odd ratio between "midlevel" commanders and foot soldiers.
It seems as if everyone who can read or hold a radio is termed "midlevel" there.

BadTux said...

Sven, it's an *invisible* bazaar, duh. Just like our *invisible* progress in Afghanistan. See: New clothes, Emperor's. Doh!

- Badtux the Snarky Penguin

montag said...

About that light at the end of the tunnel. Isn't that just another freight train?

Comrade Misfit said...

Sven, "mid level" might mean "a dead talib with a cell phone."

Montag, the light may be a high-speed passenger train that was built in China.

The New York Crank said...

Always beware of the light at the end of the tunnel. It's usually a bulb illuminating the entrance to another tunnel.

Yours crankily,
The New York Crank

squatlo said...

Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember Robert McNamara's daily death tally on the nightly news, designed to keep us convinced the war was going our way if only we'd give them a little more time to bomb the shit out some thatched huts here and there.
And Lindsey Graham is rattling sabres at Iran, calling for yet another preemptive war to end all wars.

BadTux said...

Maybe adding yet another war to the clusterfuck of wars we have goin' in West Asia is the Republican jobs program for creating 5,000,000 jobs in the next two years -- simply make serving in the Army a requirement for receiving unemployment compensation, hand a M-16 to every one of the poor sods, and send'em all to serve in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Oh sure, some of'em may be 60 years old and hardly soldier material, but what the hey, they can still sit, right? Put'em in a Humvee and have'em shoot out the window or something, hey?

Of course, there's a few problems with this notion. 5,000,000 soldiers got sent to Europe during WW2, but that was back when we had an actual economy and thousands of cargo vessels capable of carrying troops and shit like that, while if we wanted to send 5,000,000 troops to the Middle East, they'd have to literally walk on water 'cause U.S. sealift capacity is, like, miniscule. And airlift capacity... ROFL! We're fucking renting cargo planes from the goddamned RUSSIANS just to keep our guys in Afghanistan in bullets right now, ain't no way in hell we could supply more troops there. In short, U.S. logistical capabilities are shot all to hell, and because the U.S. has virtually no heavy industry left, there's no hope of resolving that problem anytime soon. The wonder is that we manage to get bullets and fuel to the few hundred thousand troops we *do* have in the Middle East, nevermind the millions of troops that it'd take to conquer Iran...

Oh wait. Here I am with that nasty reality thingy again. Oh look, over there, it's a missing blond white woman! Alrighty, then!

- Badtux the Snarky Penguin

tom said...

Yea, I was thinking of the 5 oclock follies....
So if we loose this war, who will the right wing blame???

Still i am very conflicted about THIS conflict (not like Iraq which I feel was a criminal operation by a criminal cliquie of non elected criminals)
I feel when we leave the locals...who think tribally, and not nationally will revert to type...
It will be a cluster you know what...
sigh