Somebody has to stand up. 74 million Americans are not going to be told their voices don’t matter pic.twitter.com/DMa7sRyoAh
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) December 31, 2020
81 million Americans are not going to be told, even though they voted for the fucking winner, that the Republicans overturned the election.
#SoreLoser indeed.
For a guy who went to an Ivy-league school and who claims to be a "constitutional lawyer", Hawley is unclear on how elections are run and he certainly doesn't understand numbers.
81 million is a larger number than 74 million. 306 is a larger number than 232. Or, if you like, the votes of 81 million trump the votes of 74 million.
Your guy lost, Josh. Grow a pair and grow the fuck up.
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The point here is not that Biden got more votes. It is not even that Biden didn't REALLY get more votes if you somehow tweak out the "bad" votes, however those might be defined.
The point is that unless the losers are magically given the win despite, they are being "told their voices don’t matter". The only way for their voices to "matter" -- outnumbered though they be -- is for them to win. This is the essence of infantile thinking, which is to say of peasant thinking.
No matter how you jiggle the vote and gerrymander the districts
81 million is far larger than 74 million and the electoral votes
are accordingly awarded.
THere is no fraud, tweaking, bad, of any other of any significance
and all reports of those found are Rethugs caught voting for rethughs via
the deadrelatives.
Over 60 court cases none with any proof, factual or substantive
exist all were thrown out, some with prejudice.
The guy lost and any further activities at this point are what they have
been a coup. To go down that path we have a name for those people
and patriots but traitors. They had their say, the produced NO PROOF
and for that its over.
Its done lets get on with the business of governments and its services
to the all people they are financed by.
Eck!
He's not trying to win the election, just first place as a Trump tool.
Four years out of law school Associate Professors of Law are Associate Professors of Law because they haven't found gainful employment in the practice of the Law. Dude has no real world experience, is as Ivory Tower as other prominent people in the news today. George aWol Bush had more experience; much as I had to admit it Trump has more experience.
Won't make a bit of difference, he's running for pResident.
Missouri, right? Show me? Rubes ...
Eck!,
I failed to emphasize that when I wrote "The point...", I meant Hawley's point, and/or that of various Republicans, not mine.
Btw, how are those glasses working out for you?
Yours two-dimensionally,
FW
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Yea, but a certain percentage of the Biden votes were from black and brown people. How is that fair? And the DemonRats artificially pumped up the count by using get-out-the-vote efforts. How is that even allowed? This a republic and not a Democracy, those with the fewest votes should win.
I'm not voting in the Georgia runoffs and I urge Georgia voters to do the same. Stay at home and don't vote for deepstate pedophile cannabil communists Lossler nor Perdition for the Senate. #boycottgeorgia!
Another adherent to the Rand Paul theory of governing. "Be a Roadblock at all times." Always be the cause of delaying legislation. It gets your face and name in the news and that leads to glory (tm).
We don't need any more of his kind.
w3ski
Frank, not aimed at you.
Its just my ire at the wackadoodle efforts of the wanna be Drumpf fans.
Glasses work fine, also the jar of skin thickener is working too.
I just can't seem to find my rose colored prismatic bifocals.
I'm with w3ski, if you can do something useful, sabotage, obstruction,
and outright innuendo is something.
Eck!
Additional thoughts that won't port ...
In a nutshell, throughout the inter-mountain west, from Texas to Alaska and all points between, not just cattle but sheep country: anywhere where there is barbed-wire and gates, an upside down boot on the gate-post indicates no one is home.
Which is of course what I was trying to say ...
Whereas a boot with a foot still in it indicates you are in Fargo.
Ten Bears, you're right. Hawley has not very much experience at practicing law. 95% of country (non-white-shoe) lawyers have far more experience. As far as I can tell, he's never tried a case.
As a lawyer, he'd be any sane person's last pick. So of course, he's found a home in the Party of Sedition.
All the Missouri bloggers I read call him an embarrassment.
But how is he gonna beat Cotton to the front of the batshit presidential candidate line otherwise?
McConnell isn't amused, and tried to call him out on a conference call that he was absent from.
Then there's the whole Twitter war with Walmart when they are a campaign donor thingie.
You know, I've been using Cotton as the example of the next likely level of awfulness in a Republican administration because he's just as crazy as Fergus and more competent, but it would seem that Hawley is the whole batshit package, incompetence and all.
May we somehow save ourselves from that hideous eventuality.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
Yet in 2005 it was a Good Thing when the Dems supported the challenge to cCertification in 2004 of the 2004 election....Then of course, the roles were reversed....and today you show the Double Standard (once again) on judgement of behavior.....If it benefits the Dems, it is ok...if it benefits their oponnents, then it is bad.
But that is a standard here, innit?
Bullshit, B. Nobody was seriously contesting the outcome of the ‘04 election. Kerry conceded in a timely fashion. Apparently, you can’t tell the difference between a protest vote and sedition.
Why is that?
On January 6, 2005, Senator Barbara Boxer of California joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral College votes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877, when all the electors from Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina, and one from Oregon—twenty in all—were challenged.[69][71] (An objection to one faithless elector was filed in 1969.)[69]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_voting_controversies
DA: Precisely. And note that the objection was in response to actual problems in the Ohio election and never intended to overturn the outcome of any election.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
But there are second-place winners, more commonly named "losers". We've all (well almost all) spend time there, manned up and taken the lumps. But then there are those who seem to think, as a matter of divine right, that such cannot happen to them. They are deluded losers that never learned one of life's basic lessons and never learned to make lemonade, to learn and grow.
Pass the alum guys, these &*&^%s need a heavy dose.
The difference between losers and not being a loser is not trying to
make the election about being a winner. Claiming you won is not a
useful event. Most are not losers they are only siding with the guy
that lost and if you feel you lost due to that then maybe the next
horse you pick might at least be a healthy one and a better choice.
Participating in making the next years better would be a more creditable
use of your time. History can be paved over and lied about but the fact
is what are you going do to make tomorrow better... and the days after.
We have seen the poor stewardship of the last few years and its ugly.
Eck!
Not allowing poll watchers (and changing rules at the last minute) are how the vote conspiracy theories start and gain oxygen.
In Missouri, you can purchase a shirt that says "Hawley doesn't even live here" on it:
https://showmeprogress.com/2021/01/01/the-entrepreneurial-spirit-still-lives/
-Doug in Sugar Pine
It’s amazing how some people (looking at you 0 0) latch onto a narrative that has proven to be false and like a dog with a bone, won’t let it go. Claiming there weren’t poll watchers has been proven false. The fact that they wouldn’t allow just your average Republican activist into the tabulation buildings (where there were already legitimate watchers) does not factor into your thinking because it doesn’t fit your preconceived notion. And what exactly, were the “rule changes” you claim? Counting absentee ballots after November 3? That there were so many mail in ballots that it took that much longer to count them. The administration was hamstringing the Postal Service back in August to inhibit mail in ballots. Is THAT part of the rule changes to which you refer? Would you have the ballots that hadn’t been counted on November 3rd just thrown out, thereby disallowing your fellow Americans their right to vote? What other rights would you like to arbitrarily allow or disallow?
Just because Fox, OAN, Qanon, and Breitbart spew out their ‘news’ does not make it true. Your willingness to regurgitate and spread the disinformation does not bode well for your credibility. I would say that makes you a liar, but that’s just my opinion.
Dale
The only explanations I've been able to think of for why the idiots who post bullshit like "what about the 2004 objection" and "Republican poll-watchers were kept out" do it are:
- They think they're trolling or owning the Libtards: "look, they get all riled up when I post this stuff!" But no one actually gets upset, it's just annoying that they keep posting stupid bullshit.
- They think that by endlessly repeating stupid bullshit, some of it will slip through. This actually works: after the 10th or 20th or 100th stupid post, you realize they're not actually interested in facts, so why bother looking up a refutation to the latest bullshit.
e.g. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/06/facebook-posts/over-100-republican-challengers-monitored-absentee/
They stopped letting in more poll-watchers when they already had too many in the room.
It's a little funny how Hawley got all het up about impeachment being a corrupt attempt to overturn the result of a fair election but now is full speed ahead in just trying to overturn the result of a fair election for no goddamn reason at all except that his guy lost.
Oh yeah, and there's money to be grifted from it.
And Republican base voters to be brought onboard of his presidential ambitions.
This is the guy who claimed that he would not run for senate if he was elected AG and then proceeded to use the office of AG to campaign for his senate run. Whatever the fuck he says, it all translates into "me, president."
-Doug in Sugar Pine
DTWND-
Calm down. Your candidate won.
Your reply is half wrong and half spit flying angry.
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