White supremacists plotted to attack power stations in the southeastern U.S., and an Ohio teenager who allegedly shared the plan said he wanted the group to be “operational” on a fast-tracked timeline if President Donald Trump were to lose his re-election bid, the FBI alleges in an affidavit that was mistakenly unsealed.
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The Ohio teen, who was 17 at the time, also shared plans with a smaller group about a plot to create a power outage by shooting rifle rounds into power stations in the southeastern U.S. The teen called the plot “Light’s Out” and there were plans to carry it out in the summer of 2021, the affidavit states.
One group member, a Texas native who was a Purdue University student at the time, allegedly sent the informant a text saying “leaving the power off would wake people up to the harsh reality of life by wreaking havoc across the nation.”
A lot of these guys are from the Loud-Mouthed Militia, but some number of them are as serious as a stroke. The good thing is that most of them are too dumb to break the code on the likelihood of informants being in their ranks.
The bad thing is that Trump's going to spin these people up because of his butthurt over the election.
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Maybe they were thinking of imitating the PG&E Metcalf substation attack?
I would call the loose 'antifa' groups who have actually committed violence a greater threat than these bigmouths.
0_0, like punching that nazi Richard Spencer in the face just as he was reich-splaining Pepe the racist frog? That never gets old.
0_0, show me the antifa body count that matches the racist who shot up a Black church in Charleston or the racist who shot up a synagogue in Pittsburgh or the racist who shot up a Wal-Mart in El Paso.
You sure this wasm't the FBI provacatuer informing on the ATF provactuer like the Michigan militia case?
Sure sounds like it.
You mean the folks who were going to kidnap the governor, B? There’s no evidence the informer was a provocateur, and besides, we know the FBI is on the side of the good guys, unless you’re some sort of socialist or commie.
Not gonna' take down the grid shooting a few rounds into a sub-station.
Old days shoot an old cathoid ray tube tv and it would implode with a satisfying report, often louder than the pistol-shot. These days shoot a tv and it just keeps working, just with a hole in it. Poke a hole in a screen-door, the door doesn't collapse. When your router fails the Internet is still there. Distributed systems. Not gonna' take down the grid shooting a few rounds, or even a few hundred rounds, into a sub-station. And they got caught. Real smawt.
Not to deny the potential of harm, but these are just bozos blowing hard at the bar.
When the DoJ was sending wannabee juhadis away for 20 years for a lot less than the MI Morons, we’re you cheering them on, B?
The MI case is based on more than loudmouthed talk, but believe as you will.
Ten Bears....I believe the thought is that they damage the transformers by poking holes in the containers that hold cooling oil, and damaging the cooling radiators and control systems. THese are vulnerable and mostly unsupervised systems that can cause those large (and hard to replace) transformers to fail under higher loads.
I'm not sure how successful that method would be.
B, unlike you, the accused allegedly didn’t believe that Blue Lives Matter.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reported that they became aware of group chats on social media in early 2020 threatening to conduct the violent overthrow of state governments and law enforcement.[31][47] During the initial investigation of social media chats, the FBI said that they encountered Barry Croft and Adam Fox. In March 2020, local officers from an unidentified police department in Michigan reported to the FBI that the militia was seeking addresses of officers. The FBI then interviewed a militia member, who agreed to become a confidential source after they raised concerns that there were plans to kill police officers.[43][47] On May 8, the FBI obtained a federal search warrant to review Croft's Facebook account. Agents found messages "plotting potential acts of violence", including a May 3 post referencing a male individual who "may be first" and was wanted "in custody"; the FBI claims this individual was South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster.
The FBI subsequently began infiltrating the group online and in person with informants in June, according to a criminal complaint.[6][62][63] Starting at that point, the FBI began compiling photographs, video footage, telephone calls, and encrypted messages made by the suspects and storing them as evidence on a USB flash drive. The content, said to consist of "hundreds of hours of undercover audio recordings and more than 13,000 pages of encrypted text messages", was released by the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan on October 16.[64][65] On March 30, Pete Musico, a co-founder of the Wolverine Watchmen, allegedly made a comment about placing Whitmer under citizen's arrest and numerous other statements on tape that prosecutors later said had indicated "a violent intent".[66] [43]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot
Regular salt of the earth Real Americans.
That's exactly right, b, at best it would turn out the lights in a neighborhood, or small town. Piss off the locals. I'll not quibble with the Cap'n on legal definitions but I find it closer to vandalism than terrorism even though pissing off the locals in a political act of vandalism certainly qualifies.
Unlike the NAZIs up in Michigan with plans to kidnap, torture (rape?) and execute the governor, with clear and present intent to terrorize.
You guys don't get it. These yawl kadia guys are the real deal. I know a couple of em and they've been deer hunting for years and Bob back there in the corner? He was in the navy. He don't talk about it much. My cousin knows a guy who was in the seals until he hurt his back. And don't forget the army is lining up with us when the presnident issues the code word. We know who the real libtards are. We're gonna point em out and the army takes em away. Don't tell anyone but I heard from a guy who works for the cable company. (He hears things when he's up on those poles wiring things up) they might even let us kill some of em.......wait come back don't you want to hear more?
Claimed Anti-fa are really Fa, operating as false flag.
Kids do vandalism out of stupidity, adults that set out to
do that are terrorists. Causing a substation to trip is an
area thing, mostly a nuisance, generally a quick recovery.
Many of the bigger ones have eyes as well as the usual
instrumentation.
Generally most I read and encountered pre covid were more
claims than ability and less on accuracy. Generaly rule
is wait them out.
As to Drumpf the dogwistler is that if he tries it we are
all watching for it. High risk it could backfire on him.
THere is little if anything in it for them and the few that
might were itching for a fight and not really on any side
other than their own to square up old grudges.
Eck!
Comrade, those particular P's of S were solitary, not affiliated with anyone that I remember. Antifa mostly likes property damage, and the masses of them have taken 3 lives that I can think of now.
Sorry to reply so late; work is taking up time and they have blocked sites (like this one) I used to be able to comment on during downtime.
The guys who called themselves the Wolverine Watchmen weren’t solitary, 0_0. Antifa isn’t a bunch of guys getting together to cause property damage and kill people, but keep making excuses for the WW, The guys who took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon, etc. You’ve been brainwashed by Fox et, al, although in your case they didn’t bother with the rinse cycle.
DA, you're flirting with the line on personal attacks. Yellow Card.
The word stands for anti-fascist, and it appears to have originated in Germany in the 1930s and then resurfaced again in the 1970s. With the election of President Donald Trump in 2016, small organizations with that name have cropped up in a few American cities. But, for the most part, labeling protesters as members of “antifa” — or, as Trump likes to say, “professional anarchists” — is often either a red herring or a false flag operation used to frighten gullible citizens.
In early June, for example, a fake Twitter account pretending to be from “antifa” called for violence. It turned out to be a scam orchestrated by white nationalists.
Antifa,” as a code word used to rile up fear and paranoia, has been lobbed especially at Black Lives Matter activists. Trump and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly said that demonstrators leading the protests for racial justice are antifa, even though independent analyses of federal arrests of protesters by National Public Radio and The New York Times don’t actually show anyone with these connections.
Trump and Fox News are tireless promoters of such scare tactics. On Monday, when the president was interviewed by Fox host Laura Ingraham, he suggested that Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s campaign was being run by a secret cabal of “people you’ve never heard about, people that are in the dark shadows.” These menacing insinuations mirror the way the term antifa is used in right-wing media — not with precision or even sincerity, but as an incantation or curse. And they are obsessed with it.
Indeed, Fox News might as well change its name to the Antifa Network, because over the past few years, according to a Lexis-Nexis search conducted in early August, it’s broadcast the word 520 times, versus just 24 for CBS, 37 for ABC and 66 for MSNBC. In one July 2019 episode of Laura Ingraham’s program alone, she or her guests said the word 59 times.
As the presidential election in November draws near, it’s clear that conservatives are using the myth of antifa to pander to their base. But is it working?
To some extent, yes. According to a Rasmussen poll in June, almost half of respondents say antifa should be considered a terrorist organization, even though most of them probably couldn’t tell you what it is, stands for, or wants.
Victor Klemperer, a Jewish professor of French literature who survived the Nazi regime, wrote in his book “The Language of the Third Reich” that “a foreign word impresses all the more the less it is understood.”
Perhaps that explains the strange buoyancy of “antifa” in right-wing media outlets. But whatever the reason may be for its popularity, the purpose is clear.
“Political language,” as George Orwell wrote in 1946, “is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”
In most of the country, antifa is mostly wind. And its hot-air blowers are the kind of demagogues that history knows all too well.
https://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-antifa-myth-0908-20200908-6kfios6eg5cznkzqv6eeowpsli-story.html
"Perhaps that explains the strange buoyancy of “antifa” in right-wing media outlets"
Like y'all use the term "White Supremacist" for anyone that is different than you in philosophy?
The "Antifa" folks have done more property damage and frightened more people than the folks discussed above.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/kelly-loeffler-photo-chester-doles/index.html
(CNN)Georgia GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler's campaign disavowed a photo spreading on social media of her smiling next to a White supremacist at a campaign event on Friday, as her Democratic opponent and others criticized her for it ahead of the January 5 runoff elections for control of the Senate.
The photo shows Loeffler posing next to Chester Doles, a former Ku Klux Klan leader and member of the neo-Nazi National Alliance who was sentenced to prison in the 1990s for assaulting a Black man in Maryland. Doles marched in the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, with the Hammerskins, a racist skinhead gang.
The Loeffler campaign condemned the White supremacist on Sunday in a statement to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The Loeffler campaign did not respond to CNN's requests for additional comment. Video from Friday's rally shows Doles attended.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/man-to-plead-guilty-in-case-involving-white-supremacist-group-arrested-near-newark/article_dd65b335-5bda-53f0-ac2d-8bd0ddb0fa34.html
A Maryland man who is scheduled to plead guilty Tuesday in a case stemming from his alleged membership in a white supremacist group wants a federal judge to immediately sentence him at the hearing, a court filing shows.
William Bilbrough IV agreed to a specific term of imprisonment as part of his plea deal, a federal prosecutor said in a court filing Thursday. The filing does not specify a charge to which Bilbrough will plead guilty or the length of the prison term he would serve if U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang accepts the plea agreement's terms.
FBI agents arrested Bilbrough and two other men in January as part of a broader investigation of a group called The Base, which was allegedly operating out of an apartment near Newark. U.S. Army veteran Brian Mark Lemley Jr., of Elkton, Md., and Patrik Mathews, a former Canadian Armed Forces reservist, have pleaded not guilty to charges including transporting a firearm and ammunition with the intent to commit a felony.
Funny how all those white supremacists seem to be not nice people, B. And how property damage and frightening people is worst than anything Dylan Roof or Kyle Rittenhouse did.
Sounds, DA, like something I signed up for fifty years ago next month.
Where do I sign up again?
Wait! What!? 'Nam wasn't about stopping the dominoes of fascistic, authoritarian communism?
Well one thing is correct the Anti-Facist folk did a lot of damage.
Pop was 5th army 84th Chemical Mortar division and did the Italian tour.
Places like Anzio, Salerno, Pastem, and Naples. Definitely anti-fa
and mortars can do a lot using HE and WP. Who was the Fa? Mussolini.
So right now and for the last few years the "fa" is the alt right and
maybe even most of the right. So anti-fa are everyone else opposed
to the Cult of Drumpf.
I don't see much decent folk doing damage, I do see fakers, bois,
boogy boys, so called threepers, and other wana be "patriots" that
are doing damage and many have been rounded up and they are FA
and Anarchist.
So learn the language, not make it up as you go or worse and most
common using what your told without inspection. Makes some look
stupid and others just ignorant.
Eck!
Someone earlier made a reference to property damage........
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion/index.html
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