Words of Advice:

"Never Feel Sorry For Anyone Who Owns an Airplane."-- Tina Marie

If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

Flying the Airplane is More Important than Radioing Your Plight to a Person on the Ground
Who is Incapable of Understanding or Doing Anything About It.
" -- Unknown

"There seems to be almost no problem that Congress cannot, by diligent efforts and careful legislative drafting, make ten times worse." -- Me

"What the hell is an `Aluminum Falcon'?" -- Emperor Palpatine

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

Sunday, March 12, 2017

Your Sunday Morning Jet Noise

Cheetolini's old 727:

It's still flying.


Old NFO said...

Still the fastest passenger jet built! :-)

Comrade Misfit said...

"Subsonic", maybe.... ;-)

dinthebeast said...

I think I just saw this B-17 fly over the back yard. I don't know what other kind of four engine planes of that size are flying around the Bay Area, so it was probably that one. The exhaust sound was beautiful.


-Doug in Oakland

Stewart Dean said...

Radial engine sound is classy....slow. measured, sure, unlike the frantic buzz of the inline and opposed engines of the newer planes.
I live across the river from Cole Palen's Aerodrome and the luscious sounds of biplanes in the summer afternoon
I also live just inside the final flight path for the Kingston Airport. What's not fun is when the Robertson helipopter is making endless touch and gos

deadstick said...

Stewart, that's the EAA's B-17, Aluminum Overcast. You can crawl through it for $20 or get a half-hour ride for $400.

There's another group, the Collings Foundation, that does the same with another B-17 and a B-24.

The sound I remember best from my childhood was the return of a carrier air group from Korea. It made, well, all the sound in the world, and we'll never hear it again.

LRod said...


> Still the fastest passenger jet built!

I'm not so sure about that. I was always under the impression the Convair 880 was faster.

In the biz, back in the '60s/'70s ALL the passenger jets (excepting the DC-9 and B737) would fly at Mach .85. It provided the best balance between time enroute and fuel burn. When OPEC got prices up, everyone slowed down, mostly to .80 (except the L1011, which for technical reasons remained at .85).

In the descent, Tri-Jets (727) frequently headed the pack, but the 880s would do better. Now, as to max airspeed, I don't know. The difference is measured in hundredths of a Mach, so it may not mean much. Whoever had the best top speed didn't fly it in cruise anyway, so it's sort of a distinction without a difference.

ZJX, ORD, ZAU retired

CenterPuke88 said...

Those Delta L-1011's blazed along too. As an aside, a B-777 holds the current (wind assisted, non-Concorde, subsonic passenger jet) speed title, as best I can find. In a west to east trans-Atlantic crossing, they averaged 745mph (near supersonic) due to an insane jet core velocity.


Comrade Misfit said...

I heard that the CV-990 was the fastest, but not by very much.

LRod said...

It's no surprise that an aircraft doing Mach .80 in a 150 MPH jetstream is going to cover the ground faster than one doing Mach .80 in a 100 MPH jetstream. They're both still doing .80, however.

ZJX, ORD, ZAU retired