....they're already screaming about voter fraud.
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How can we even have elections anymore when one party is guaranteed to call fraud, even before the election?
There should be some burden of proof to go with any accusation.
w3ski
And they can only "win" by cheating.
Great poster. The dollar $ign on the collar makes it Art~
I received a ballot again for my niece, who is registered in another state and never registered here. Just like in 2020. And, yes, the state is already too liberal, so why bother?
Also in 2020, the State of California's website showed I had voted 2 weeks before Election Day. I told them at the polling site, they said my in-person would override the other, but how do I know?
I'm not saying it's fraud, but deliberately sloppy elections can have an effect. Did anyone check for college students (mostly left-voting) voting in two states?
Even if they win (not likely) they will still scream something about truck loads of Mexicans being shipped North to vote. The GQP of my father's era has become full on racist, misogynist, and chomping at the fascist bit. Both pathetic and dangerous...
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/san-fernando-valley-residents-have-trouble-casting-recall-ballots/
You can fix this sort of thing if you make a Single Day for Voting, and not all this early voting and mail in voting.
Simple, easy, and much more secure. Show up at the polling place, show ID, cast you ballot. Easy. No one can easily claim to be another person, much less chance for fraud.
Unless, of course, you would prefer complicated and less secure.....
I mailed in my ballot a couple of weeks ago and got the email from BallotTrax saying that it was received and counted.
I was gonna write up another comment explaining how mail in voting in California works, but fuck it. Read one of the previous five I have posted here if you have any misapprehensions about California voting.
What really needs some attention is the goddamn recall rules themselves. If Gavin Reptile gets 49.5% saying no to the recall, Larry the fuck Elder could become our next governor with around 20% of the vote.
No wonder the Republicans like it.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
B, it sounds like you are proposing a super spreader event.
Meanwhile, folks north of CA are happy with the mail-in ballot system that Republican Secretary of State Norma Paulus advocated and help implement.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/norma-paulus-dead-oregon-obituary/
Oh, for the return of liberal Republicans.
We're about 2/3 of the way through a federal election.Adds all over the internet and media for advanced voting ,mail in voting ,how to make sure your registered to vote and where to vote(if you already haven't received the card in the mail that tells you those two things). It's not hard people it's all about attitude .
B, so you are proposing no mail in ballots like have used since the Civil War. Does this mean no people serving their country that are too far away to vote,no business people that are helping keep the economy afloat and have to leave the area to do so and no people that cannot stand up in line for who knows how long in some areas should not have a vote? TFG complained about mail-in votes but he used one himself and he didn't know what state he lived in.
Here is a free response:
When Trumpists say: “Everyone knows that the election was stolen,” say: “Everyone knows that Trump works for Vladimir Putin.”
Comrade: One was a media and leftist lie. The other is likely, but unproven 'cause your side keeps anyone from doing an audit...despite those (sometimes useful when you folks need it) Statistical Irregularities. Why are you so opposed to checking to make sure the elections were (and are) fair and free? What are you afraid of finding?
It's funny how you use different standards of evidence depending on the subject. But that's a Liberal trait, innit?
At least the Trump side has some evidence. All you have is lies and innuendo (not tht at that has kept you and yours from repeating the lie even after you knew it was a lie over and over and over and over and over.
Perhaps going through all the motions and then withdrawing yelling "Fraud" was always part of the plan?
They have made the State of California spend $276 million to administer the recall (https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/california/a-break-down-of-how-much-the-recall-election-is-costing-you/103-e2d18f37-6427-4ec1-910e-71874e0f9ec7) and paralyzed its government for months, because a Governor who might be recalled isn't able to make any decisions of consequence, still less be given them by his senior bureaucrats.
Either way they win.
Hey, B, how about you get subjected to yearly full IRS audits, just to show that you're not commuting any tax fraud?
Fraud allegations require substantiation to even be entertained. As I've mentioned before, that is a basic requirement of civil procedure. Not a bunch of wild allegations. The Trump side has no evidence, only conspiracy theories and bullshit.
My recollection is that the only people who were prosecuted for provable voter fraud in 2020 were....Republicans.
...And they did lose, by an almost two to one margin. Right in line with other statewide elections over the past decade. Republicans in California only win local and district elections because the overwhelming majority of the population rejects their policies, if you can even call them that.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
"'cause your side keeps anyone from doing an audit."
Here in Georgia, within hours after the election was called for Biden, an audit was started by the GOP SOS. It included a recertification of all signatures and all voter information on absentee ballots. This audit found a net gain of about 2000 votes for Trump. Was it fraud? Nope--turns out 3 or 4 rural counties misplaced external data storage units. This audit was not a recount because, by law in Georgia, a recount cannot take place until after the vote has been certified. After the vote was certified, the state carried out two more recounts. Throughout the entire process, the RNC, the DNC, the Trump campaign and the Biden campaign had representatives observing everything. And the entire process was closely overseen by a Republican governor (nicknamed "Bubba Trump"), a Republican SOS and two Republican controlled sides of the state house. Every legal challenge to this whole process of which I'm aware was thrown out.
Any claim that "our" side kept anyone from doing an audit, at least in Georgia, is 100% untrue.
Further, MI and WI have conducted various audits and reviews. AZ is conducting the Cyber Ninja forensic audit, but the Republican controlled Senate won't release any info. I wonder why?
This time there just weren't any needles in the haystack.
Pete
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