The good news, if there is any, is that Boehner the Bungler is ruling out unconditional surrender. Which if you're an optimist, can be taken to imply that he knows that they are in an untenable situation.
But that's probably overly optimistic.
Maybe in the end, Ted Cruz and his buddies can flee into the Philippine jungles and hide out there until 2040 or so.
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Oh I don't think his position is untenable.
The ACA is despised by many. I am one of those. I don't give a diddly-shit if the entire country grinds to a halt to force Obama and his ass-hat henchman Reid's hand.
-Moe
So if the only way to stop the ACA is for the country to default and its economy to come crashing down, you're OK with that?
Of course, Comrade. The only way to stop a law that affects only 15% of the population and doesn't affect me or Moe in any way (since we get our health insurance from our employer, my insurer hasn't changed, my doctor hasn't changed, I've seen no -- zero -- effect on my healthcare from the ACA) is to shut down the entire country. Because the numbers say that the ACA will bankrupt the country. In some alternate universe of pink unicorns. In our universe, of course, the ACA was deliberately designed to be budget-neutral and in fact will reduce the deficit by at least $100B over the next 10 years.
I keep asking right wingers why, given that the ACA doesn't affect them personally in any way, they're so against it. I've never had any of them be able to explain it to me other than by making up outrageous lies that simply aren't supported by the text of the law. At which point all I gotta say is that if you have to rely on outrageous lies to make an argument because you have no, like, actual FACTS on your side, I have no respect for you and good day, sir, I do not converse voluntarily with liars. So it goes.
- Badtux the Numbers Penguin
" I have no respect for you and good day, sir, I do not converse voluntarily with liars."
BadTux,
Wow. That's about right for you I guess. A fucking whining ass liberal -- gun hater -- know-it-all.
You sure and the hell ain't my kinda guy.
-Moe
sorry Comrade
Whuh? I'm confused here, did you make up any lies about how the ACA turns elders into human kibble or gives vaginal exams to women, like that ridiculous ad that the Koch brothers are running? Feeling guilty about something?
Just askin', Moe. 'Cause there's a whole lot of lyin' goin' on, and I lose track of all the lying liars, you weren't on my list but (shrug).
As for my politics, nice to see you're doing what right wingers love to do, i.e., make personal attacks rather than talk about facts and data. I guess talking about the actual subject of the post was too much to ask?
BTW, the Constitution has a process in it for dealing with legislation you don't like once the Supreme Court has ruled it constitutional. It's called an ELECTION. Elect a Republican Senate and a Republican President and repeal the law you don't like. Anything else is just spitting on the whole concept of representative democracy and shows the sort of respect for American values that I'd expect of a tinpot dictator from Upper Trashcanistan. Just sayin'.
Moe, would you mind explaining to me why the conservatives, who seem to proclaim that they love them the Constitution like nobody else, seem to think that it is the essence of tyranny to make health insurance available to all, but they don't seem to be at all upset about the NSA/FBI/DEA spying on everybody?
I truly do not understand their priorities.
Play nice, people. Rule 1 is in effect and I shall enforce it if necessary.
Comrade,
I do not know the answer to that question. I am not a GOP conservative. I am personally pissed that our government allows it's alphabet agencies to spy on us. I am equally angry over the TSA groping my ass every time I want to fly somewhere. Or setting up road blocks and question me about my travel. And, as you already know, I'm pissed that I am "required" to buy insurance.
Insurance is already available to all - that can afford it. Forcing us to purchase it is the tyranny.
-Moe
I have nothing further to say to da Tux. :-)
See what I mean, EBM? They just make shit up. Laws created by the processes laid out by the Constitution and examined by the Supreme Court for compliance with the Constitution are suddenly "tyranny" -- what, the Constitution is tyranny now?! -- and a tax on the uninsured to reimburse doctors for emergency room care so that I'm not paying for their deadbeat uninsured asses when their carcass gets scraped off the pavement by an ambulance and hauled off to the ER is suddenly "being forced to buy insurance at gunpoint." It's as if they live in an alternate universe of pink unicorns and cotton candy trees where there is a mean Mr. Obama who dictates all this stuff, rather than there being, like, elections and Congress and the Supreme Court and so forth.
The only thing missing is a reference to Hitler. But wait. I bet it's coming.
- Badtux the Reality-based Penguin
Red card issued. I wasn't joking.
Resort to personal attacks is the last resort of people who don't have facts on their side. Just sayin'.
Still baffled by the whole "tyranny" thing. I've never lived under an actual real tyranny, but I'm pretty sure I'm not living under one. I mean, our Constitution didn't set one up, and if you follow the processes of our Constitution including elections and passing bills through Congress and Supreme Court review and all that, the word "tyranny" is completely inappropriate. Thus far I haven't had to worry about a knock on the door and being disappeared in the middle of the night like I'd have to worry about in a real tyranny, not even under the Presidency of the "tyrant" George W. Bush ("tyrant" in quotes because he was nothing of the sort). Yet the anti-ACA folks insist that the ACA is tyranny... despite the fact that it was passed via the Constitutional process of being passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President, and despite the fact that it was vetted by a conservative Republican-dominated Supreme Court and found to be compliant with the Constitution (with the exception of one minor part of it). So the Constitution is... tyranny? Are these the same people who whine that our government is violating the Constitution all the time? For realz?!
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