Seen on the street in Kyiv.

Words of Advice:

"If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

“The Mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” -- The TOFF *

"Foreign Relations Boil Down to Two Things: Talking With People or Killing Them." -- Unknown

“Speed is a poor substitute for accuracy.” -- Real, no-shit, fortune from a fortune cookie

"If you believe that you are talking to G-d, you can justify anything.” — my Dad

"Colt .45s; putting bad guys in the ground since 1873." -- Unknown

"Stay Strapped or Get Clapped." -- probably not Mr. Rogers

"The Dildo of Karma rarely comes lubed." -- Unknown

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

* "TOFF" = Treasonous Orange Fat Fuck, A/K/A Dolt-45,
A/K/A Commandante (or Cadet) Bone Spurs,
A/K/A El Caudillo de Mar-a-Lago, A/K/A the Asset., A/K/A P01135809

Saturday, February 23, 2013

More Than Seven Rounds?

Chris Hernandez makes the case that you may very well need more than seven rounds. A lot more.

He has a lot of stuff in the story, but this is the takeaway:
Make your own decision about whether or not to defend yourself, and what you should use to do so. But learn the reality of a gunfight. Understand that you’re likely to only hit with a small percentage of the shots you fire, and those hits may not have much effect.

And most of all, remember that many people who say nobody needs more than seven rounds don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

5 comments:

Eck! said...

Chris gave many a takeaway line..,
Tor me this one stands out.

"The people who are pushing new gun control laws seem to think they understand weapons and lethal force encounters. They don’t."

Out on the street if you don't know jack then STFU and the people proposing law to fix stuff
don't know jack!

Eck!

Comrade Misfit said...

Chris's writings are worth the time to read them.

BadTux said...

The reality is the Tueller Drill. If you're inside your home, the reality is that you have 1.5 seconds to bring down your attacker or he is on you and physically demolishing you (assuming you're a woman or a typical flabby middle-aged office worker male). The reality is that the only people who get into gunfights outside their home are drug dealers and cops -- the number of times that regular non-criminal civilians have gotten into gunfights outside their home (and lived to tell the tale) are pretty much zero.

So, you're telling me that you are capable of firing more than 7 rounds into your attacker within 1.5 seconds? I call BS. The reality is that it takes even a trained cop around a second to make the decision to use his weapon and bring it to bear. A typical autopistol being fired at full speed has a cycle time of approximately 0.10 seconds so that gives you about 5 rounds into an attacker within that 1.5 seconds. Or for real firepower, a Winchester SX-2 ("world's fastest-cycling semi-automatic shotgun"), you'll get the same five shots into an attacker, but there won't be much other than hamburger meat left of the attacker after that :).

BTW, the Tueller Drill is also why I don't call names on cops who shoot knife-wielding perps. The reality is that if the perp is within 9 yards of you and coming at you, or if he's within 9 yards of anyone else, you have 1.5 seconds to shoot him or he guts you or someone else like a carp. Doesn't matter whether the perp is mentally ill, just feeling thuggish, or whatever, dead is dead and someone with a knife ain't to be trifled with. The only good news is that nobody ever died of stray knives flying away from a drive-by knifing. Same ain't true of a drive-by shooting.

Old NFO said...

Great link, and he's absolutely correct!

Comrade Misfit said...

The world isn't a Tueller Drill. Not every attacker is going to be so obliging as to keep his or her attack within the drill's parameters. Nor is everyone with a gun going to execute a Mozambique Drill, which I suppose you could argue for a three-round limitation.

But hey, you do what works for you.

And I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that the security details for Mayor "No McBig Gulp" Bloomberg and Governor Cuomo carry handguns that hold more then seven rounds.