Words of Advice:

"If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

"Flying the Airplane is More Important than Radioing Your Plight to a Person on the Ground
Who is Incapable of Understanding or Doing Anything About It." -- Unknown

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level
and then beat you with experience.” -- Mark Twain

"Stay Strapped or Get Clapped." -- probably not Mr. Rogers

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

Thursday, August 25, 2016

"Guns Less Regulated Than Cars"-- Let's Test That a Little

Here's a test: Take your car to the shop and leave it with the mechanic for some work. And then take a gun to a gunsmith and leave it for some work.

Then come back the next day to get them back. This is what happens:
  • At the mechanic, you'll pay your bill.  The mechanic will hand you back your keys and maybe give you a receipt detailing the work.  Maybe not.  You take your keys, start your car and go about your business.
  • At the gunshop, you'll pay your bill.  Then the gunsmith will hand you an ATF Form 4473, which you will have to fill out in order to get the permission of the Federal government to get your own gun, your own fucking property, back from the gunsmith.  If the Federales's computer system is working (by no means a given), you can then get your gun back.
It would be like having to go down to the RMV and get a new title/registration for your car every time you dropped it off for an oil change.

Another difference: You can tell your mechanic "I can't get away from work, so my spouse/co-worker/friend will pick the car up for me" and probably your mechanic will say "cool beans" (as long as the shop gets paid). Not so much for guns, you have to be the one to go down and reclaim it. Possibly a close family member can do it, but for anyone else, it'd be a "straw man" transfer and, if your local Federal prosecutor is a dickhead out to make a name for himself, both of you can end up doing hard time.


Robert Fowler said...

From the ATF website;

Is an ATF Form 4473 required when a gunsmith returns a repaired firearm?

No, provided the firearm is returned to the person from whom it was received.

[27 CFR 478.124(a) and 478.147]

We do have to keep a log book of firearms for repair. The exception is if the customer waits while you make the repair, it doesn't have to be logged in.

Comrade Misfit said...

Which is amusing, since all of th in this area do run the checks. And yes, I schedule the work for " while u wait".

Robert Fowler said...

That's a paperwork nightmare. I'd like to be there when the ATF shows up to audit their books. For that to work, they have to show that they received the gun from you in their A&D book. Then when you pick it up, they have to show that they delivered it to you in the book. Totally unnecessary. Makes me glad I paid attention when I had my interview when I first got my FFL.

Comrade Misfit said...

I would not put it past the local ATF people to have told the gunsmiths that they need to do it, regardless of what the actual rules say.