President Donald Trump*, facing scrutiny for hush money payments to a porn star and a former Playboy model, pleaded with evangelical leaders for political help during closed-door remarks on Monday, warning of dire consequences to their congregations should Republicans lose in November's midterm elections.About all Trump seemed to leave out was claiming that "them darkies will rape your daughters.”
"This November 6 election is very much a referendum on not only me, it's a referendum on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment. It's a referendum on so much," Trump told the assemblage of pastors and other Christian leaders gathered in the State Dining Room, according to a recording from people in the room.
"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots. "The level of hatred, the level of anger is very unbelievable."
This is just despicable. It shows Trump's level of desperation that he's going to claim the political apocalypse will happen if the Party of Trump loses the midterms. Obama lost the midterms in `10, Bush did in `06, Clinton did in `94 and there was no apocalypse.
What Trump is worried about is having the Democrats control the House, so his favorite butt-monkey, Devin Nunes, won't be able to protect Trump from congressional investigations.
Playing the fear card at such a base level is repugnant.
Cuing the chorus of Trumpanzees in three----two---one---
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You would do well to address your TDS with less anger.
You are making a fool of yourself.
And there's the chorus! Tom's hitting the first notes. But will it be a solo??
{Looking at watch}
Right on time.
Tom, this speech by Trump is profoundly anti-American, unless one belives in a “Christian America” where people were shamed or threatened if they said Merry Christmas as a holiday greeting.
Mr. Moeller, regarding your support of trump, are you saying it’s okay to have affairs outside of your marriage, treat women as beneath you, grab them by the pussy, go up and kiss a woman just because you want to, have a child with a woman from a one night stand; it’s okay to do any of the aforementioned as long as you are rich enough to buy their silence or famous enough that you can get away with it?
Is it okay if someone does these things to your wife, sister, daughter, mother, grandmother? You are willing to look the other way as long as your 401k is growing, ‘those’ people are kept where ‘they’ belong, and them darkies are behavin?
What ever happened to treating others as you’d want to be treated? Looking out for your fellow man? Helping those that need help? You know, all those teachings from that one book. Hmmm, what was the name of that book? Oh yeah, that’s it. The Bible.
Ms. Fit’s post points out the hypocrisy of the evangelical right and Trump’s willingness to use every tactic, however abhorrent, to get his way. But with the base support of folks like you that wear blinders to every criticism of trump, he will not be held accountable for his actions. To quote your leader, sad.
Dale
Dale, did you ask Bill and Hillary if it was OK, too?
Well, considering the attacks he's been leveling at the media and now Google, perhaps it is a referendum on the first amendment, just not the way he's trying to portray it.
Mostly he and the Republicans are just terrified at the prospect of a congress that will do it's damn job and investigate all of the wannabe mobster BS that any bright seventh grader could have told him becomes a massive liability once you take the oath of office.
As demonstrated by the spreadsheet they've been passing around listing the requests for investigations they have received from Democrats that they have managed to stymie by being in the majority.
Those investigations are not, as they've been saying, the biggest threat to Fergus' presidency. It's the actual wannabe mobster BS he's been pulling since, I don't know, forever, that's the threat to his presidency, and if he succeeds in making it not a threat, that is measurable damage he has done to the country and its government.
-Doug in Oakland
And Tewshooz brings in the “Whataboutism” refrain...
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, bucko
That speech shows a clarity of understanding that belies the belief by many that he's a bumbler and and a fool . He's a cold immoral predator .
People knew that Clinton was no paragon of virtue but they voted for him because they believed that he could deliver what they wanted .
The same is true of the religious right . They see Trump as the best bet to get what they want . If he gives them a Supreme Court that will reverse Roe vs Wade they will kick him to the curb . Long shot , yes . But they have forever to work on it .
Tooshoo, No I did not ask Bill and Hill if it was ok. From my upbringing and point of view it was wrong and immoral back then also. But, you see, back then the party's involved were consenting adults. The current president is the one that said he could do whatever he wants, to whomever; with or without consent. He also claimed he could kill someone and get away with no repercussions.
You still good with that? Your morals and upbringing still allow you to overlook that abhorrent behavior?
Dale
http://time.com/5107482/50-years-after-1968-still-living-in-its-shadow/
Even more relevant to our current politics was the presence, and ultimate performance, of a third-party candidate in 1968, George C. Wallace of Alabama. A cigar-chewing segregationist and populist, Wallace campaigned as a champion of the common white man. “You just watch him in the years ahead,” an Alabama political observer told Wallace biographer Marshall Frady in 1967. “He can use all the other issues–law and order, running your own schools, protecting property rights–and never mention race. But people will still know he’s tellin’ ’em, ‘A nigger’s trying to get your job, trying to move into your neighborhood.’ What Wallace is doing is talking to them in a kind of shorthand, a kind of code.” And it worked. In November, Wallace carried 13.5% of the popular vote nationally and won five states: Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, Arkansas and Mississippi, giving him 46 electoral votes. It was not a bad starting point for a subsequent populist candidate who would tell voters that walls and tariffs would bring back the America they thought they had once known.
So there's no mistake - I like the notes that Comrade Misfit makes.
Tewshooz, the correct quote is “sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander”...fair enough. Let’s have Donnie’s tax returns (Bill and Hillary released theirs), let’s have a trial in the Senate (Bill had that), let’s have a budget surplus (Bill had that), and let’s go ahead and compare Bill’s methods (invite) versus Donnie’s (grab them by the pussy).
CP: How come almost every blog has a language/grammar Nazi in the comments? They are annoying. Tax returns? He doesn't have to. Trial? Fifteen plus months and no high crimes or misdemeanors, and you need two thirds to convict. Budget surplus? Way too early to tell. Invite? Yeah, a starstruck intern (subordinate employee) in the most powerful office in the world.
How's that TSP doing?
Doubledee, sorry that offering a correct quote and using it to reply offends, you can stick with whatever you want and be as annoyed as you wish, I don’t give a shit. So, each of my points was a direct point on TewShooz request for equality in treatment.
- The public, the press and the other candidates all asked for Trump’s returns. All previous Presidents since Carter have released their returns, Ford released a 10 year summary and Nixon released 1969-1972 when asked to. Most candidates have too, Donald has not.
- Bill Clinton was impeached for doing what Donald has already proven to have done, lied about sexual escapades. There is no way to know the results of a vote without taking it.
- You actually have the balls to suggest we cannot yet say if Donnie might produce a budget surplus. I gotta have some of what you are having!
- I agree that Bill Clonton broke the law with regards to sexual harassment with the intern. His other events were all consensual, where as there is a current legal charge of sexual assault against Donald.
CP: Everyone knew what he meant. Offended? No it takes a helluva lot more than that, I'll stick with annoyed.
-That may be but, he still doesn't have to.
-Does "while on the job" mean anything to you?
-Not sure that he even wants to, but how are liberal economic forecasts for the last year and a half holding up?
-See above
BTW: I thought the whole deal with Clinton was bullshit.
DoubleDee, so close is good enough, eh?
So norms are not good, OK.
Trump has done it repeatedly on the job.
I would suggest consolidating your winnings if you’re in the market...looks rocky ahead.
The forecast in question is correct, an exploding deficit, rising interest rates during economic stimulation which then require more increases, trade problems in an interconnected world, and the joy of inflation returning.
CP:
I guess so, nit picking is right up there with name calling when you have a weak argument.
Norms are great, what is required is something else.
On the job as President? I gotta use your line and ask for sources on that.
See my previous statement about liberal economic advice. I'll be fine but thanks anyway.
Krugman and others have been predicting the apocalypse since the Dems lost full control in 2010.
DD, I said “on the job”, you added “as President”.
There are plenty of impeachable things around Donnie. As for the strength of my argument, time will tell.
"Krugman and others have been predicting the apocalypse since the Dems lost full control in 2010."
No, he most certainly has not. That's a fact. The generic term for your statement is a "lie".
-Doug in Oakland
Doug: I did get a little fast and loose on that one but he has missed quite a few.
https://mises.org/library/fact-checking-paul-krugmans-claim-be-right-about-everything
Calling Trump the "mother of all adverse effects," the Nobel Prize-winning economist predicted that the GOP nominee's administration could quickly undo the progress that the markets around the world have made in the eight years since the financial crisis.
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"Under any circumstances, putting an irresponsible, ignorant man who takes his advice from all the wrong people in charge of the nation with the world's most important economy would be very bad news," he wrote. "What makes it especially bad right now, however, is the fundamentally fragile state much of the world is still in."
Krugman's pessimistic view comes in the wake of a more than 800-point plunge in U.S. stock futures that coincided with Trump's increasingly strong showing in the polls. Trump has repeatedly attacked the Federal Reserve, accusing Chairwoman Janet Yellen of keeping interest rates low in a bid to help the economy and get Hillary Clinton elected.
"Now comes the mother of all adverse effects — and what it brings with it is a regime that will be ignorant of economic policy and hostile to any effort to make it work," Krugman wrote. "So we are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight. I suppose we could get lucky somehow. But on economics, as on everything else, a terrible thing has just happened."
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/krugman-trump-global-recession-2016-231055
As for the Mises Institute, it is a cult center, not a think tank or research institute. John Bircherism on steroids
He did predict bad economic outcomes after the election, but (please pay attention to this part) he then admitted he had been mistaken in those particular predictions.
Compare that behavior with right wing "economists" who predicted runaway inflation any minute now during the fiscal stimulus programs put in place following the '08 crash, who never admitted error even when said inflation didn't materialize for years, and refused to let the evidence of what was actually happening interfere with the pre-decided outcomes dictated by their ideology.
Many of them still won't admit they were wrong, and some of those have been hired by the Trump administration.
-Doug in Oakland
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