Seen on the street in Kyiv.

Words of Advice:

"If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

“The Mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” -- The TOFF *

"Foreign Relations Boil Down to Two Things: Talking With People or Killing Them." -- Unknown

“Speed is a poor substitute for accuracy.” -- Real, no-shit, fortune from a fortune cookie

"Thou Shalt Get Sidetracked by Bullshit, Every Goddamned Time." -- The Ghoul

"If you believe that you are talking to G-d, you can justify anything.” — my Dad

"Colt .45s; putting bad guys in the ground since 1873." -- Unknown

"Stay Strapped or Get Clapped." -- probably not Mr. Rogers

"The Dildo of Karma rarely comes lubed." -- Unknown

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

* "TOFF" = Treasonous Orange Fat Fuck,
"FOFF" = Felonious Old Fat Fuck,
"COFF" = Convicted Old Felonious Fool,
A/K/A Commandante (or Cadet) Bone Spurs,
A/K/A El Caudillo de Mar-a-Lago, A/K/A the Asset,
A/K/A P01135809, A/K/A Dementia Donnie, A/K/A Felon^34,
A/K/A Dolt-45, A/K/A Don Snoreleone

Sunday, June 9, 2013

Your Sunday Morning Jet Noise

Lockheed L-1011:

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4 comments:

Old NFO said...

And it was a weird flying beast too... VERY touchy controls and a bad habit of porpoising on landing...

6/09/2013 11:04 AM
LRod said...

It was always interesting when they lit off the engines at the gate. I only remember it on #2 now, but it could have (and should have) been all three. Once it was spooled up and they hit the fuel, a big puff of white smoke came out. It was unlike any other airplane (I can't attest to other RB-211 equipped airplanes), and if you'd never seen it before, you were inclined to call someone on the ramp with fire extinguishers.

Another oddity: when I was taking FAM trips in the '70s, all the big jets (Tri Jet on up—and that means B727—neither the L1011 or DC-10 was a "tri jet" in our lexicon) would cruise at about Mach .83 and the 1011s would cruise at Mach .85. Yes, it was about the same disparity as between the big jets (same as above, not just widebodies) and 737s or DC-9s. When the Arab oil embargo kicked in, all the big jets slowed back to Mach .80…except the 1011s. They kept on at Mach .85. I asked one once why, and the pilot replied that slowing the 1011 below Mach .85 yielded a higher deck angle, therefore angle of attack, different from the other jets, and that they actually burned more fuel at Mach .80 than they did at Mach .85. Consequently, there was no value in slowing down.

LRod
ZJX, ORD, ZAU retired

P.S. Hmmm. Back to the Turing test, I see.

6/09/2013 3:34 PM
CenterPuke88 said...

Yea, but what a great aircraft to jump seat on. It was like sitting next to a giant picture window. It was also a fast mutha...the Delta L-1011 that started toward the back of the line over INK was always number one by the time they got to AQN landing DFW.

6/09/2013 6:56 PM
LRod said...

It was always interesting when they lit off the engines at the gate. I only remember it on #2 now, but it could have (and should have) been all three. Once it was spooled up and they hit the fuel, a big puff of white smoke came out. It was unlike any other airplane (I can't attest to other RB-211 equipped airplanes), and if you'd never seen it before, you were inclined to call someone on the ramp with fire extinguishers.

Another oddity: when I was taking FAM trips in the '70s, all the big jets (Tri Jet on up—and that means B727—neither the L1011 or DC-10 was a "tri jet" in our lexicon) would cruise at about Mach .83 and the 1011s would cruise at Mach .85. Yes, it was about the same disparity as between the big jets (same as above, not just widebodies) and 737s or DC-9s. When the Arab oil embargo kicked in, all the big jets slowed back to Mach .80…except the 1011s. They kept on at Mach .85. I asked one once why, and the pilot replied that slowing the 1011 below Mach .85 yielded a higher deck angle, therefore angle of attack, different from the other jets, and that they actually burned more fuel at Mach .80 than they did at Mach .85. Consequently, there was no value in slowing down.

LRod
ZJX, ORD, ZAU retired

P.S. Hmmm. Back to the Turing test, I see.

6/09/2013 7:19 PM

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