If the car is operating on Autopilot and it kills someone outside of the car, manslaughter charges should be filed. Because those cars are killing people.
Charge the idiot who operated Autpilot and charge the idiot company that installed a system that can be used where it shouldn't be. Because the regulators are, frankly, asleep at the switch.
Are they that afraid of Space Karen?
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the pilot/driver is still ultimately responsible for the operation of the vehicle.
IN that the driver should be monitoring the self drive feature as
it can fail. Any electronic/mechanical system can fail and the driver should be charged.
Further the report was blew though an intersection at 70mph,
a bit fast? Failure to note signage, and warning light is
negligence on the part of the driver. Sine the driver was
fishing for a phone that just another driver failure.
At a minimum the driver failed due diligence including
monitoring the automatic systems. In the end the driver
selected that vehicle, enabled that function, then failed
to assure it was operating safely.
That the system can and does fail is a concern also
our road system is unsuitable for self drive. That will
still require a more sophisticated system able to rival
the existing wetware sytem (brain).
They would not want me on the jury.
Allison
Just thinking out loud, and I realize there are significant differences, but…
“Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”
Careful what you ask for…in both directions.
Nowhere near the same. You do realize that, if you negligently shoot somebody, you’re going to be charged with manslaughter, don’t you?
Gun analogy does not apply.
Though cars are potentially lethal tools in
the hands of negligent or irrational drivers.
Gun doesn't auto shoot (ignore drones please).
However the car/truck can as in driver initiates
and then decides it automagic and goes off line
(sleep) as in one case reported. Again gross
negligence with sad result.
The self drive feature is involved, the driver
is committed. Sorta like scrambled eggs and ham.
Its still limited automation and wishes don't
make it go.
Alison
RE: Space Karen, wouldn't a good tort lawyer identify him as another set of 'deep pockets ?
I’m well aware the gun analogy doesn’t apply, but it makes a good sound bite and will convince low information voters…I’m just saying, be careful.
Could never figure out the point of a self-driving vehicle. If one has to constantly monitor what the vehicle is doing why not just drive it yourself? It seems developing the technology first and then finding a profitable use for it after is bass ackwards. Like developing a robot to get up and change the channels and volume on your TV instead of using the remote so you don't have to change the batteries once a year or so.
"Can we do this" and "can we sell this" are the only considerations. "Should we do this" almost never enters the conversation.
Kind of an IQ test, really: A top AI scientist just said that in general intelligence, you know, the kind it takes to reliably operate a motor vehicle, AIs are about at the level of a cat, or just below. So would you let your disabled cat drive your car? If not, the bullshit in a Tesla should be viewed as a sales tactic and nothing more.
I'm all in favor of self driving vehicles when they are ready, by the way, after about a million miles in service as a delivery truck driver, I've seen the limitations of human drivers play out in the worst ways imaginable.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
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