Seen on the street in Kyiv.

Words of Advice:

"If Something Seems To Be Too Good To Be True, It's Best To Shoot It, Just In Case." -- Fiona Glenanne

“The Mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” -- The TOFF *

"Foreign Relations Boil Down to Two Things: Talking With People or Killing Them." -- Unknown

“Speed is a poor substitute for accuracy.” -- Real, no-shit, fortune from a fortune cookie

"Thou Shalt Get Sidetracked by Bullshit, Every Goddamned Time." -- The Ghoul

"If you believe that you are talking to G-d, you can justify anything.” — my Dad

"Colt .45s; putting bad guys in the ground since 1873." -- Unknown

"Stay Strapped or Get Clapped." -- probably not Mr. Rogers

"The Dildo of Karma rarely comes lubed." -- Unknown

"Eck!" -- George the Cat

* "TOFF" = Treasonous Orange Fat Fuck,
"FOFF" = Felonious Old Fat Fuck,
"COFF" = Convicted Old Felonious Fool,
A/K/A Commandante (or Cadet) Bone Spurs,
A/K/A El Caudillo de Mar-a-Lago, A/K/A the Asset,
A/K/A P01135809, A/K/A Dementia Donnie, A/K/A Felon^34,
A/K/A Dolt-45, A/K/A Don Snoreleone

Thursday, April 23, 2009

Overthinking the Prosecution Problem

Some legal scholars think it will be difficult to indict Dick Cheney, George Tenet, Porter Goss, Donald Rumsfeld (and George Bush. I submit that they are overthinking the problem.

The obvious charge is a charge of command responsibility, otherwise known as the Yamashita (or Medina) Doctrine.

These are the elements of the charge:

1) A war crime has been committed;

2) Those committing the atrocities/war crimes were under the command of the defendant;

3) The commander knew or should have known, based on the surrounding circumstances at the time, that the subordinates were engaging impermissible conduct; and

4) The commander failed to prevent or punish those responsible for the commission of such crimes.

The last three elements are "gimmies." The torturers both in the CIA and in the military were under the command of Bush and Cheney. The military torturers were under the command of Rumsfeld, the CIA torturers were under the command of Tenet and Goss. The four potential defendants not only knew of the commission of war crimes (element 3), they authorized and approved of them (element 4). That is clear from the record and from the statements of many of the defendants, which would be admissible.

So the sole area to argue about at trial will be whether war crimes took place.

I don't see the prosecution's case-in-chief taking longer than a day to put on after the opening statements are made. The defense is going to have to argue on the first element. They will have to argue that the torture wasn't really torture, for the other elements of the charge are indeed "gimmies" to the prosecution.

Trying the bosses will not be hard. That is why you probably will not see any of the senior officials of the Bush Administration taking any trips to Europe anytime soon.

If you do not think that a charge of command responsibility is not a serious one, consider this:

We hung General Yamashita.

5 comments:

Mark Rossmore said...

There's also precedent in the trial of Slobodan Milošević, a national leader charged with genocide and violations of the Geneva Convention.

Comrade Misfit said...

That trial was a clusterfuck; the Tribunal in the Hauge made it seem as they'd have a problem trying a simple moving violation.

BadTux said...

Yeah, but Yamashita was a darkie furriner speakin' that funny furrin gabble speak, not a real person like Dear Former Leader and His holy crusaders. That makes a difference, yessiree.

- Badtux the Cynical Penguin

Comrade Misfit said...

BadTux, there is something to your point.

Mark said...

We Yamashits wasn't hung. He was hanged. The past participle of "hang" (by the neck 'til ye be dead) is "hanged".

Minor point, I know.