I haven't taken the time to run this down, but StrategyPage is saying that the Russians are talking about giving up a vast chunk of their territory in the Far East to China, comprising 9% of Russian territory, in payment for dual-use war material supplied by China.
If it's true, the irony is rich that Russia has gone to war to try to conquer Ukraine and will lose a vast chunk of its Asian territory in the process. I doubt if that's going to go over well with the Russian nationalists, let alone the Russian people, when they figure it out.
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So sad....Russia and Putin continues with its paranoia and dreams of Imperial glory. the Russo-Japanese war redux. Perhaps if we can get *our* shit together and properly support Ukraine, may the Kremlin's house of cards implode...and change, hopefully meaningful, come to Russia.
Of course, over *here*, the MAGA lunacy is doing its best to drill holes below *our* waterline.
MAGA-2024, America First-1940. Same party, same pro-fascist dipshits.
I've been waiting for this shoe to drop. There have been more Chinese living there than Russians now for quite some time now.
How many other shoes are there in the offing?
Don't know the value of that part of Asia but Ukraine is the 'Bread Basket' and was much desired by Hitler too for that reason.
Irredentists hate having given up any territory. Russian nationalists still bring up the sale of Alaska and Mexican nationalists want the SW US back. Tsar Vladimir III is committed to restoring the Russian empire and giving up/back Outer Manchuria to the Chinese will not play well.
I've been wondering why the Chinese didn't just take it back. Russia is in no position to oppose them. If I was China I'd demand territory and gold. They've got Putin bent over.
Yes, they could take it back. But that'd be an act of war that Putin couldn't ignore. he probably wants to hold onto Vladivostok and the Vostochny Cosmodrome, which they'll end up renting from China.
Some irony. They built Baikonur and now they have to rent it from the Kazakhs. They'll have to rent Vostochny (the Cosmodrome of Corruption) from the Chinese.
I honestly don't think the Chinese want any of that Russian territory, any more than South Korea wants North Korea. The reason is that it's cheaper to buy Siberian resources than to extract them because of Putin's need for hard cash in order to import war materials his decrepit economy cannot manufacture. So Siberian resources are being sold to the Chinese for far less money than it'd cost for the Chinese to extract them themselves.
Modern China is very mercantile. I seriously doubt they're going to take on territory that will actually cost them money.
I agree with the Penguin.
Why buy the cow when the milk is so cheap?
Would the US annex Canada formally if it meant taking on 10 more Alabamas?
If they’re so mercantile, why not accept the benefits of trade and investment with Taiwan and leave things be? The chip fab plants will be smoking holes if China invades.
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