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Wednesday, September 22, 2021

Color Me "Not Shocked"; The Big Lie Ed.

Two weeks after the 2020 election, a team of lawyers closely allied with Donald J. Trump held a widely watched news conference at the Republican Party’s headquarters in Washington. At the event, they laid out a bizarre conspiracy theory claiming that a voting machine company had worked with an election software firm, the financier George Soros and Venezuela to steal the presidential contest from Mr. Trump.

But there was a problem for the Trump team, according to court documents released on Monday evening.

By the time the news conference occurred on Nov. 19, Mr. Trump’s campaign had already prepared an internal memo on many of the outlandish claims about the company, Dominion Voting Systems, and the separate software company, Smartmatic. The memo had determined that those allegations were untrue.

Read to the end and you'll find the bizzare-land claim of the Trumpists: They believe the election was fraudulent because it hasn't been proven to them that it wasn't. That inverts the requirements for proof on any fraud case. Those alleging fraud have to prove it.

Even if those suing the Trumpists for defamation win their cases, it won't matter to the Trumpanzees. They are beyond proof or, for that matter, rational thought. They have swallowed Trump's Big Lie and they will believe it until they lay down for their dirt naps.

8 comments:

DTWND said...

C'mon. Everybody KNOWS that election fraud occurred (or so we've been told). But the fact that a majority of the shenanigans was done by Republicans seems to have been missed (or conveniently avoided). Can't contradict the narrative now, can we?

Dale

B said...

No, we believe that the election was fraudulent because statistically, it could not have been as it was reported in several states. Further, the Dems fought to prevent any investigation of those precincts.
Oddly though, your side has used the claim of Statistical Improbability to force several recounts in smaller contests. One would think that they would want truthful and free and honest lections. But much like voter ID, which could greatly reduce fraud, you object to it as racist...even though you know it is a lie....

You keep decrying fraud, but we both know the truth no matter how shrilly nor loudly (nor how often) you deny it. (and your side is getting even more shrill every time...)

Please, deny it all you wish, but don't lie nor twist the reasons so you can attempt to deride those with whom you disagree. It doesn't work. You can't disprove on merit, but your derision only shows that you have no cogent argument.

Comrade Misfit said...

Bullshit doesn’t get to be made true because you and Your Orange Lord proclaim it to be.

You have no actionable proof. Your lawyers are in the process of being disbarred for lying to the courts. Your propagandists will end up with ruinous libel judgments.

You got nothing. Lindsey Fucking Graham knows that you got nothing. Dan Quayle knows you got nothing. Bill Barr knows you got nothing.

Bless your heart.

dinthebeast said...

This is just how the goddamn Republicans plan to hold onto power now that their policies, if you can even call them that, are so odious that they can't win fair elections. They are attacking the very idea of democracy because they don't win with the majority of voters any more.
The goddamn confederacy wasn't any more of a threat to the continued existence of American democracy than the current Republican party, and if you don't believe that, just wait until Friday when the retarded "audit" in Maricopa county gets released.

-Doug in Sugar Pine

DTWND said...

B, You're arguments are specious at best, if not outright lies. You claim that "I know" the truth about fraud, but "I" deny it. You have no way of knowing what "I" know.

You infer that I lie and twist logic to deride others, and yet you have been the one to give slanted viewpoints that ignore factual information.

You are becoming the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Someday, when you actually have a legitimate argument to make, no one will believe you because of all the falsehoods and disproven comments you've spouted over the last few years. Your credibility is at issue. At some point you have to have some proof of what you allege; how you feel about various topics is not enough to convince others.

I have more to say, but it would merit me a yellow card at least. And I'd like to stay in good standing with our hostess.

Good Luck

Dale

Eck! said...

>>>>No, we believe that the election was fraudulent because statistically,<<<<

OK, who is "WE"?
I figure three possibles, Q-anaon, Trumptists, or Qtrum?

I learned in school that statistics are an artform backed by mathematics.
You can prove anything with numbers even one plus one equals anything
but 2. So that the result does not fit a statistical model is generally meaningless without delving into the model, the data used, and critical
examination of possible errors.

Does that actually represent your own views?
Are you are just echoing it to spread it, and therefore should
be plunged into the moderation black hole as a propagandist.

As to shrill and loud, behold mirror, meet thy self. In denial
of fact, lack of any proof, and those being followed have suffered
or will further suffer for their unsupportable beliefs and
defamation.

I use a stick to remove the hook that is deep in the mouth of
many fish I've caught. Helps me remove the hook without risk to
me. But dealing with cult-fish is risky as they like the hook they
swallowed along with line and sinker.

I mock thee.


Eck!

Eck! said...

Doug,

We All Know... [Wink, wink, nod nod.] The Fraudit will likely
say things that never existed in fact and likely will conflict
with their own actions inside the audit.

We will be amused.


Eck!

dinthebeast said...

They will claim fraud that never happened and use that to base their voter restrictions in every Republican controlled state on. It's a blatant, if stupid, attempt to overthrow democracy.

-Doug in Sugar Pine