I haven't seen much from the Parkland Children's Brigade about the recent school shooting in Santa Fe, Texas. My guess is because that shooting doesn't fit their narrative.
The gun-banners want a ban on "assault rifles" and large capacity magazines. Their claims, all along, have been that such bans would make them safer.
The Asswipe of Santa Fe has shown that their claims are false. Asswipe used a pump-action shotgun and a revolver; guns of similar function were available before the Spanish American War.
The only thing that the banners can cry about, here, is requiring people who have kids in their home to lock up their guns. But there's no rel debate about that point. So this shooting does nothing for them.
Worse for them, it exposes everything that they are crying about as being false premises. It's not that the Asswipe of Santa Fe had an evil-black-rife and 40-round clips, it's that he had a gun at all in a place where guns are not permitted. Prom his perspective, it was a target-rich environment, a happy hunting time.
so they're keeping quiet. Make no mistake, if Michael Bloomberg and his Children's Brigade get what they want and ban all semiautos, they'll be back for the revolvers and the shotguns. The Santa Fe shooting came too early for them, that's all. Which is why they're keeping quiet.
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My thoughts and prayers are going to the innocent firearm in this case.
Comrade, I wish you were correct about there being no debate about the need to secure guns, but that is most assuredly not correct down here in Texas. Our illustrious Lt. Governor believes that less entrances and exits to schools is a solution, not securing those entrances/exits, actually getting rid of most of those annoying fire doors and such. This was his response to questions about how the teen got the weapons. Imagine the Triangle Factory fire scenario in a school...
A number of my heavily armed co-workers dispute responsibility for securing their guns because the person taking them/using them would be breaking the law. I compared it to the fact that in some states (maybe all?) an insurance company can reject a claim for a car’s theft if it was left running or unlocked with the keys in it. They were outraged, “it’s illegal to steal a car, why should I be liable if someone does something illegal to steal from me?”
The simple concept of responsibility, especially when dealing with a deadly weapon or something that can be adapted as one, is absent in some people.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-hogg-publix-boycott-20180523-story.html
Let's see, a Google search for "parkland students reaction to santa fe shooting" returned 6,850,000 results, including this one from the New York Times that includes multiple responses from the Parkland students, so perhaps they're not as supine and mislead as you're making them out to be:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/us/santa-fe-parkland-shooting.html
-Doug in Oakland
Lawmakers who think they can just offer “thoughts and prayers” and do nothing else after the latest school shooting ought to think again. And 17-year-old Megan McGuire was quite clear about what their futures hold if they refuse to do so.
“My thought is that if you do not do something, you do not have a prayer of being elected,” she declared.
McGuire is a junior at Santa Fe High School in Texas, where another student killed 10 people in a shooting rampage on May 18. It was the 22nd school shooting thus far this year.
https://shareblue.com/megan-mcguire-santa-fe-high-school-shooting/
Right. "Do Something."
What is it that *you* suggest be done?
And before you start with prohibitive things, refresh your memory on how well such actions have worked in the past in this country.
I report, you decide.
The NRA will go thru the death of 1000 cuts. As with the Celestial version, it will be painful.
You heard it here first, folks.
DA, I asked you for what you suggested be done, and you responded with some bullshit platitude that sounds like it came out of misbegotten fortune cookie.
So it would appear that the last thing you have in mind is to engage in a serious discussion. Which, to my mind, makes you part of the problem.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/facing-student-led-anti-nra-die-in-publix-suspends-political-donations
Have you ever fought an idea? It has no body to kill, no weapon to destroy.
Mene, mene, tekel upharsin.
DA, I agree with the Comrade, you jump in with the same kind of approach that you complain about the right wingers doing. Seriously, what's your "something"?
On that note, the NRA spokespeople have so far blamed:
A “culture of violence”
Godlessness
Too many doors in schools
Unhealthy diets
Ritalin
The overmedication of children
“Progressive culture”
Criticizing masculinity as toxic
Mainstream media
Not one word on responsibility as a gun owner, just tossing crap against the wall and looking for something to stick. Current Texas law won't even kick in because the asswipe was 17, and the law for access of a minor to a firearm applies to 16 and under. Also, if the gun is stored unloaded, even if the ammo is right next to it, the law doesn't apply either. The parent has not addressed how the guns were stored. Kudos to Gov. Abbott, even if I feel sick saying it, for saying we need to look at responsible weapon storage.
The NRA is a sinking and stinking ship. Who wants to be the last rat off before it goes down?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fbi-has-obtained-phone-taps-of-russian-official-with-nra-ties-who-met-trump-jr
DA: Your posts were unresponsive, as usual. I asked you for your opinion and what's your response: A bunch of anti-NRA innuendo.
Sorry, but the NRA is headed by a criminal who got off on a technicality.
I like Jim Wright's suggestion: make the NRA's safe gun handling rules LAW, with real penalties, severity of which depend on what the consequences of the violation were.
"And before you start with prohibitive things, refresh your memory on how well such actions have worked in the past in this country."
It worked very well with quaaludes - and, as far as drugs have gone, only with quaaludes. It turns out that quaaludes are difficult to make, so banning their manufacture was effective in stopping them. It didn't work with alcohol, but making alcoholic drinks is very easy.
Also, in 1986, the US government banned the manufacture of machine guns. They haven't been used in a single mass shooting since.
"The gun-banners want a ban on "assault rifles" and large capacity magazines. Their claims, all along, have been that such bans would make them safer."
James Shaw Jr. would agree - he's the one who stopped the Nashville Waffle House shooter. The shooter had a small magazine, so he had to stop to reload. During the reloading process, Shaw was able to grab the gun away from the shooter. If the shooter had a large capacity magazine, there would have been no such opportunity to stop him.
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