Barring a reporter from a White House press event because she asks hard questions.
If you are fine with this, then I question your dedication to freedom.
Reporters are not supposed to by sycophants. In a free country, they have a duty to ask hard questions, to discomfort the comfortable. Their duty is to hold leaders to account.
Trump clearly wants the press corps to be akin to Soviet-era Pravda. He is hostile to American freedoms.
This is just another betrayal of American freedoms and liberties by Trump and his lackeys.
Do you stand for freedom or for Trump? There is no middle ground, anymore.
Thursday, July 26, 2018
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When I was a rising high school senior ('64?), I did a youth hostel trip of Scandinavia and Russia....the latter with a week each in Moscow and St. Leninburg. Other than the high-end (so to speak) hotels, there was no toilet paper. What Ivan used was newspaper. Given that the dominant one Pravda....and that Pravda means truth...the irony meter was pegged.
As Paul Harvey would say, Now for the rest of the story. This intrepid reporter was shouting out her questions. Repeatedly. It's fine to ask those questions. What is not fine is her methods nor that it was in the venue of the President hosting the President of the EU. Do you suppose they had more pressing items on their schedule? Do you suppose questions not about Cohen would be more appropriate given the setting? Did this reporter ask even one question about Trump and the EU?
Anon, did that also excuse banning her from the WH press corps? It would seem that asking Cheetolini relevant questions disturbs you more than Trumps’ fealty fest with Punin.
(Not Anon) Yes. Refusing to leave when asked is grounds for at least a one-event ban.
The real question for blame is: was her conduct sufficiently bad to warrant being asked to leave in the first place? WH says yes. She says, at minimum, no. Both sides are politically motivated to make those claims. As I understand it, there's no video. Limited factual clarity, there.
I have seen video of a press conference at which a member of the press was asking and repeating questions out of turn, despite being told that they would not be answered out of turn. He was not removed. I think he should've been. Not for the asking, or asking loudly, or even the asking out of turn, but for the constant repetition that served as an ongoing interruption.
From what I'm seeing, the media isn't framing this as a false crackdown on disruptive behavior. They're framing this as a violation of a journalist's right to act how they like when on the job. The fact that press was banned is "wrong", no further inquiry as to "why" required.
The fact that she refused to leave when asked doesn't speak well of her commitment to civility, either.
The "fealty fest" is about as concerning as the unicorn in my living room, and for the same reason.
Путин и свободолюбивый русский народ благодарны вам за ваши добрые слова.
Remember when The Manchurian Candidate was a scary thought? But now we're faced with The Manchurian Fucking Third of the Population...
Dark, their gratitude does not concern me.
Nangleator, while we're taking a walk down memory lane, how did Al Gore react to being asked inconvenient questions? And what happened when the asker refused to leave?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkLUP-gm4Q
That student had the same 1A rights as any journalist. His abuse was a meme. I don't think we're at "unprecedented."
According to reports, Meyer was in line for access to the microphone, when former Ambassador Dennis Jett, a University of Florida political science instructor and the forum's moderator,[12] announced that one more question would be taken from the microphone on the right as seen from the stage. Meyer grabbed a second microphone which had been shut off, and demanded he be allowed to ask a question, asking, "Why don't you answer my questions? I have been waiting and listening to you speak in circles for the last two hours." He also stated, "These officers are going to arrest me," and "You will take my question because I have been listening to your crap for two hours."[13] When an officer attempted to cut Meyer off and escort him out of the hall, Meyer broke away and continued to shout. Kerry then intervened and requested that Meyer be allowed to ask a question. Meyer was then brought back to the microphone with police officers on either side of him.[14]
Meyer then handed his camera to the woman who was standing in front of him in line and requested that she record him. Kerry then finished answering a previous question, and Meyer was then recognized by Kerry to ask a question.
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At this point, Meyer's video began. Meyer spoke for approximately 1 minute and 20 seconds, beginning by citing the book Armed Madhouse and its author Greg Palast's description of the 2004 U.S. presidential election and reports of election irregularities.[15][16] According to The Washington Post, Meyer's question turned into "an increasingly agitated three-parter."[15]
Meyer questioned Kerry's concession of the 2004 U.S. presidential election, Kerry's support or lack of support of the efforts to impeach George W. Bush,[15] and Kerry's involvement in the Yale University secret society known as Skull and Bones.[15] After Meyer used the term "blowjob" (in reference to the impeachment of Bill Clinton) and while he was asking about Kerry's involvement in Skull and Bones, Meyer's microphone was cut off. Later, Steven Blank, ACCENT chairman, said, "We make it clear that any profanity and vulgarity by anyone asking questions will result in a cutting off of the mic."[17]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Florida_Taser_incident
That was Kerry not Al Gore.
My error as to speaker, but the point stands. It's a celebrated example of someone being asked to leave after asking a left-wing politician an unwanted question, and being tased after refusing. An event ban is hardly an escalation.
Mr. Blank's quote reflects restrictions being placed upon how questions are asked.
Uh, no, he rambled and used inappropriate language and the overreaction was not justified. Also, there is no indication that Kerry was responsible for the overreaction, unlike the case with Trump and the reporter in question.
But that you have to reach back more than a decade for “ both sides do it” demonstrates how much in the tank you are for Cheetolini.
Bradley, congratulations on earning your “Whataboutism” merit badge.
Having embarrassed all members of the genus Homo, Bradley doubles down to include all primates from the Eocene to today.
The Manchurian Candidate was written in 1959, and adapted to film in 1962 and 2004. Does the fact that you had to reach back more than a decade demonstrate how much in the tank you are against The Citrus in Chief? Your argument is invalid.
It's not just that everyone does it. It's that it's old hat. So much so that people laugh about it - even when the responding security goes too far and uses a taser.
You don't have to look back 10 years for cases of people being disruptive at, or being removed from, events. Pull up any recent event of a conservative speaker visiting a liberal college. The disruptions will be there. Removals will be somewhat less frequent.
But, maybe if posters here can think up enough personal insults they can, by ad hominem, reach a world where making a scene can't get you removed from a venue. We won't know until they try.
I didn’t bring up the Manchurian candidate, nor am I responsible for the arguments of others.
No, Bradley, this is part and parcel with this President and his assault on the free press. This White House has played this game repeatedly, so ties go to the press. Presidents have always had shouted questions they ignored. You point about a male report not being ejected is a good one, as Donnie’s misogyny seems well established. This in the know (ex-Donnie White House Officials) day it’s almost certain this was Donnie’s call.
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