It is possible to admire President Zelensky and the Ukrainian people's bravery, resilience, and fortitude in the face of a malevolent, godless foe while also recognizing that his interests are not our interests, his fight is not our fight, and his requests should not be granted.
— Batya Ungar-Sargon (@bungarsargon) December 22, 2022
Sorry, you are wrong on many levels. Standing aside as an evil nation attempts to conquer another is taking the side of the evil nation. If you do not choose to fight evil, then you are standing beside evil.
Beyond that, if the history of the 20th Century taught us anything, it was that European instability eventually comes to effect the security interests of the United States. Anyone who seriously believes that having an encouraged, territory-hungry Russia on the borders of NATO does not matter to the United States has to have been drinking the Tuckyo Rosé wine.
If the history of the 20th Century has another lesson, it is that it is best to stamp out small conflagrations in Europe before they become big ones. Right now, all it costs America is money to back the Ukrainians. If they do not prevail and the Russians go further, which Putin has made no secret of desiring to, it will cost us far more than just money.
The Russians have been the ones escalating this war by carrying out genocidal attacks against the Ukrainian people. There is little more that they can do in that regard. So yes, we should be giving the Ukrainians every tool that they can possibly use to vanquish the Russians.
ReplyDeleteSide A is the world's industrialized democracies.
Side B is China, Russia, Iran and the DPRK.
There's a glaring glitch in all that, Cap'n, with all due respect.
ReplyDeleteWe've a long history of turning the blind eye, when not engaging in foreign occupation and genocide ourselves. As noted elsewhere and by those certainly more prominent than I, Ukraine is forcing us to live up to our rhetoric.
Rhetoric being rhetoric, I don't have a lot of confidence ...
If France and England had acted appropriately to Hitler's treaty violations in the Rhineland, World War II might have been totally avoided, according to the testimony of Germany's generals at the time. We are already past that point with Putin, but may I suggest that if the allied nations had acted appropriately to the Anschluss or to the invasion of Czechoslovakia, which are more close analogies to Putin's war on Ukraine, the carnage of World War II might have been a fraction of what it ended up being.
ReplyDeleteMaybe European nations have learned something from the past, unbelievable as that might seem. Let us see to it that Republicans, who have devolved into little more than open fascists, do not derail European unity, and precipitate us into another war with 50 million dead, or far worse.
If France and England had acted appropriately to Hitler's treaty violations in the Rhineland, World War II might have been totally avoided, according to the testimony of Germany's generals at the time.
ReplyDeleteIt is possible that the German government might have collapsed, which would have also avoided the Holocaust.
It's also possible that reaction to antisemitism might have been marshaled, except that the British government's stories on what was happening were disbelieved by lots of people because they remembered that British propaganda in the Great War was a lot of lies.
We never know what is behind the facade. The story I've heard is that the German troops that marched into the Rhineland had no ammunition. Same for the East German troops who were constructing the Berlin Wall in 1961. The bosses behind both actions wanted there to be no chance of a war being started.
ReplyDeleteUkraine grows wheat and sunflowers and they never bombed anybody. Putin bombs other countrys and makes war. Also his big table and his big ego are ridiculous. It is expensive, but i am with Ukraine.
ReplyDeleteBatya Ungar-Sargon repeatedly amplifies Neo-Nazis on Twitter.
ReplyDeleteHeh. No surprise, then, that she’s chosen Putler’s side.
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