In some ways, one has to admire how well Hamas has played much of the West. They started the war by committing atrocities, they took and keep hostages, and they are hiding behind their own people. Their strategy seems to be to let the Israelis kill as many civilians as possible until the rest of the world makes them stop. At which point, Hamas will claim the mantle of resistance and cement its control even further. And so far, it seems to be working.
If there is a trap there, Netanyahu has fallen into it. By the time he's finished conducting the war, Israel will be seen just another brutal Middle Eastern state that plays by Hama Rules. There will be no claim of moral authority as the survivor state of the Holocaust. Israel will be seen as just another state willing to massacre tens of thousands of people when it sees fit to do so.
Meanwhile, in the United States, the Arab-American population is doing its best to ensure that, in the long run, everyone will hate them. A lot of them are saying that they will boycott the election because they don’t like Biden‘s position.
If they do that in sufficient numbers to affect the election, then they will be in a situation where the next president (Trump) hates them already (Gruppenführer Miller has a Muslim visa ban ready to go) and the losing side (Democrats) will also hate them.
I don’t know what genius thought up a plan to get everyone to hate them, but it seems that Abba Eban was right: They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
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Isreal appears to be slightly further alone as an example of what the United States would be in a Republican fantasy. A shrinking (portion of the ) population controlling the levers of politics and the apparatus of State…eventually likely resulting in a situation much like Apartheid in South Africa…while an increasing percentage of that group becomes more and more radical. It’s not too late, but the damage wrought by Bibi and Hamas to the slowly improving relations between Israel and Arab governments has set back this field by decades. There is also the years of Arab governments using Israel as a bogey to distract their populace coming home to roost.
ReplyDeleteThe blame is multifold, and lands far from just on Bibi, Isreal, and Hamas. However, in the long run, barring a miracle of some sort, Hamas is the winner in this play. They cement enmity against Israel among a ghettoised population, providing both physical and financial support for years to come…meanwhile, Isreal’s moral mantel has been knocked askew by Bibi’s choice to go full Rambo.
Surely, a more tailored approach, combined with Munich response style activities, would have been less financially costly and, in the long run, more effective. They want a prisoner exchange, OK, tag a number of the exchanged prisoners with small trackers. They’ll never find them all, and it will give you two things, limited intelligence and a future distrust of all people who were in Israeli captivity/custody with regard to any militarily significant locations. Note,,this would not include surgically implanted trackers, that would cause significant worldwide issues, but if that rumour were to leak out…maybe give all the released prisoners a vitamin injection before release?
The depressing thing is Hamas was effectively brought to power by the actions of Israel. And so history continues to repeat itself, and things done in the name of “security” and “defence”, all too often prove to bring neither. I don’t know if there was ever a point where this whole mess could have been resolved in a way that was least harmful to the involved parties, but that train left the station a long time ago.
Shenanigans with Hamas counting?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
0_0, I’d have been shocked if the figures were accurate.
ReplyDeleteThe trap fallen into isn't necessarily that Hamas are the "bad guys"
ReplyDeleteIn the bigger picture direct lines can be drawn from Hitler's expressed admiration for the American post-Civil War Reconstruction AND our solution to the "Indian Problem" to where this is today AND a bunch a of screaming religious nutballs in a position to get away with so manipulating affairs of state as to bring on the apocalypse so their precious lord and master will float down out of the sky on a floating rainbow unicorn with thousands of "helpers" on floating rainbow unicorns and rescue them, carry them all away to paradise
There's stuff going on we here don't know about and you can't trust anyone ...
Except they are. Wholesale murder of unarmed civilians as well as raping and murdering women and taking civilians as hostages gave, to the Israelis' minds, full license for everything they have done since.
ReplyDeleteThe 9/11 hijackers only killed people and brought down some buildings. Imagine what would have been the outrage if Americans had learned that, before crashing into the WTC and the Pentagon, the hijackers had raped some of the women on those airplanes.
We'd have fucking nuked Mecca.
1) Considering the actions of the Irgun, Lehi, and Haganah terrorist groups in the 1940s:
ReplyDelete"Wholesale murder of unarmed civilians as well as raping and murdering women and taking civilians as hostages gave, to the Palestinians' minds, full license for everything they have done since."
Note that the leaders of Irgun, Lehi, and Haganah all became Prime Minsters of Israel - all before Hamas even existed. For me, Israel lost any claim to moral authority by the time Shamir, leader of the openly pro-Germany Lehi during 1943-45, became PM.
2) "Israel will be seen as just another state willing to massacre tens of thousands of people when it sees fit to do so."
Already shown by the Nakba.
3) I don't know if this is a tangent, but Zionism tended to look at us diaspora Jews as defective before the establishment of Israel. Just look at how many Israeli PMs changed their names to sound less Ashkenazi and more "Mideastern."
After the Tree of Life shooting, Israel's Chief Rabbi, David Lau, refused to call the target a "synagogue" because it was a Conservative synagogue. Israel does not let Conservative and Reform rabbis perform marriages within its borders, and does not recognize Conservative and Reform conversions. Since the Conservative and Reform movements came out of the diaspora, Israel rejects them.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-10-28/ty-article/.premium/israels-chief-rabbi-refuses-to-call-pittsburgh-massacre-site-a-synagogue/0000017f-dbe7-d3ff-a7ff-fbe7cf560000
Meanwhile, Naftali Bennett, then Israel Minister for the Diaspora, barged into a memorial service for the victims and told them to support Trump, whose "great replacement" rhetoric motivated the mass shooter. That sleazeball also became PM of Israel.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/israel-defends-trump-amid-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-criticism/
Given how Zionism has detested us Diaspora Jews, just imagine how Israel regards Gentiles.
Tree of Life not a Synagogue checks out.
ReplyDeleteFuck the Haredi.
It's a possibility that the Russian influencers are busy here just like they have been since WW11. It's much less costly to plot whispering campaigns in other countries than to physically attack even so-called weaker countries. In this case just put them on both sides and watch them fight and keep the world in turmoil. It's easy to start a fight when both sides are already glaring at each other.
ReplyDeleteThat Israel ended up with such an extreme government should be a warning to all those here in the US that think having many viable political parties would be a good idea. If nobody wins enough votes to form a government, then a coalition is required. For Israel, that resulted in a shitball of all the most right-wing extremists managing to make the needed numbers.
ReplyDeleteHere in the US, if nobody got the needed number of electors, the election gets tossed to the House, where we'd see the same situation: wheeling and dealing among all the factions until some coalition had enough votes to choose a President. 33% MAGA, 10% Evilangelicals, 5% Flat Earthers, 5% a few other fringe groups, and you have disaster.
Possibly, but the Israeli system is, well, weird. No single legislator really represents anyone. It's a party loyalty system.
ReplyDeleteSaying that, you're right about the risks of both the electoral college and tossing an election into the House.
The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from
ReplyDeletehttps://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/
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