The parents of a teen accused of killing four students in a shooting at a Michigan high school were caught early Saturday, several hours after a prosecutor filed involuntary manslaughter charges against them, officials said.
James and Jennifer Crumbley were captured in a commercial building in Detroit that housed artwork, Detroit Police Chief James E. White told a news conference. White said the couple “were aided in getting into the building,” and that a person who helped them may also face charges.
Idiots, both of them. Expect their little bit of trying to go on the run to come back to haunt them at their bail hearing.
UPDATE: $500,000 per and ankle-monitors. Nothing yet on whether it's a cash-only bond or if it can be secured with property.
Rolling on the floor laughing my rosy red outside the "protection" of the "law" ass off.
ReplyDeleteIt is well established in Michigan law that evidence of flight is admissible.” People v Coleman, 210 Mich App 1, 4; 532 NW2d 885 (1995). The term “flight” has been applied to such actions as fleeing the scene of the crime, leaving the jurisdiction, running from the police, resisting arrest, and attempting to escape custody. Id., citing 29 Am Jur 2d, Evidence, § 532, p 608. Evidence of flight by itself is insufficient to sustain a conviction; however, “such evidence is probative because it may indicate consciousness of guilt.” Coleman, supra at 4.”
ReplyDeletehttp://www.michbar.org/file/opinions/appeals/2006/062706/32298.pdf
Branded!
Scorned as the one who ran.
What do you do when you're branded,
And you know you're a man?
And wherever you go
for the rest of your life
You must prove ...
You're a man!
The parents were incredibly blasé. The day before a teacher saw Ethan searching the net for ammo, and the school notified the mother by voicemail and by email. She did not respond, and texted the kid "“LOL, I’m not mad at you. You have to learn not to get caught.”
ReplyDeletethe day of the shooting a teacher saw a note on Ethan's desk that should have set off alarm bells you could hear three counties over: "The note contained a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun pointed at the words “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.” In another section of the note was a drawing of a bullet with the words “blood everywhere” above the drawing. Between the drawing of the bullet and the gun was a picture of a person who appears to have been shot twice and bleeding, the prosecutor said. Below that is a drawing of a laughing emoji.
Further down the drawing are the words “My life is useless” and to the right of that are the words “The world is dead.”
The parents were called in. Incredibly enough, not only did they not take him home, the school returned him to class.
And when the news of the shooting hit the news, Mommy Dearest texted him “Ethan, don’t do it.”
Far too little, far far far too late.
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IF you'd care, scroll down to the November 30 post from our host. The subject of thinking before using a firearm was posted at 11:46, almost 1-1/2 hours before the shooting. Although speaking to the Auburey case, it still rings eerily appropriate.
ReplyDeleteThe Constitution gives us rights in this country. With those rights come responsibilities. Responsibility to secure a weapon when not in use or in your personal possession. The requirement to practice gun safety. The responsibility to abide by gun laws that are in effect in the community.
Being a parent is not a right, but there is a responsibility to raise and teach one's children right from wrong. And if a child needs help, it is the responsibility of the parent to acquire the necessary aid.
It sickens me to know that there are "parents" like these less than 50 miles away from my community who think that a 15-year-old child is mentally and emotionally prepared to handle a firearm responsibly. To laugh off and tell the child to learn to not get caught. To not immediately take the child and either talk to him or seek aid for him. Disgusting behavior by some so-called adults.
So many times, after the fact, we've heard the parents claim, he was a "good kid". What about the other four "good kids" that are dead and the sixteen others that were wounded. This doesn't even take into consideration the countless others that witnessed or knew the victims.
And school officials are not blameless in this either. Were they worried about violating the civil rights of the shooter? What about the rights of those that died. Didn't they have a right to live? Sometimes the zero tolerance policies that schools have are over-reaching, but in this situation they seem to not be effective.
An immature 15 year old with a hand gun. Given by the parents who themselves judged it to be ok to supply to him. In Wisconsin, a 17 year old with a AR rifle. Given to him by a non-related adult who judged it to be acceptable to supply him. How fucking insane does one have to be not to recognize the similarities?
Shit like this angers and frustrates me. It also makes me concerned about my grandchildren that go to school with classmates that have parents that think it's okay to allow children access to unsecured weapons.
I have zero sympathy for the 'parents' of this shooter. May they be found guilty and rot in prison. Their 'contribution' to society has already been made.
Dale
I understand the frustration at the parents... The school administrators, etc. Sigh... Are we going to hold parents accountable for their children's mental illness? Honestly, I don't know the answer to that. Humans have done it before. Actually that was the norm for much of human history. The actions of one family member was held against the entire family. The American system where a family member can't be held accountable for the action of another family member is relatively new experiment. Because the old system got so out of hand and corrupt, people were fed up with it. I understand the frustration, but I'm worried about this new precedent that is being established.
DeletePast time to start demanding accountability for negligence involving firearms. If you fail to secure or properly handle a weapon, bad results aren't an "accident", they are the result of your carelessness, and you are responsible for the damage.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that there will be a Rittenhouse or Zimmerman "defense" claim made soon.
ReplyDeleteAnd some folks should not have children. They obviously have no remorse or feel accountable in any way.
There are a lot if parents who spoil their kids rotten. The kids grow up, not having to do chores and being given everything they ever wanted. They have a rough time when the working world smacks them in the face.
ReplyDeleteThen there are the parents who believe that their kid could do no wrong.
I’m not saying this is whst happened here, but almost everyone reading this will be dead before that kid breathes free air.
I loved the defense attorney saying that her clients were planning to turn themselves in.
ReplyDeleteRight, because it’s totally normal to go spend the night in a commercial building in Detroit prior to surrendering to the fuzz…
That's what you get when you are poor slaves. When they tell you that education is bad. When you fall for it because all the local authorities tell you that you are useless.
ReplyDeleteI know people who have given everything for their children to get an education and see a bigger world.
Not like this poor family. This is a tragedy.
I was maybe 8 when Dad bought me a .22 single-shot rifle and a surplus Enfield as birthday presents. Even with one at a time, I shot the barrel off of that old Stevens. We had a house near the beach and back then it wasn't crowded there. Later on, Dad got me a .22 revolver to learn pistol shooting.
ReplyDeleteI have honestly never had an urge to shoot people. Although I have met one or two that might benefit from it. I have had unsecured guns, but not unsecured ammo, all my life, and my now-adult kids' lives too.
Am I the "only one"? I think not.
Yet nutzos like this make the case to take all our guns.
Those parents need some reality in their lives.
w3ski
My father once confided in me because of his extensive training as a hunter, he didn’t think that he was capable of shooting someone, even if it was defending himself and his family. Fortunately, I’m a decent shot with a fun bang tool, not that I own any. Yet.
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