Essentially, Republicans now blame every electoral loss on election fraud. The Baby Trumper in California is doing just that in advance of the recall election. So is Fox "News".
Republicans hate America. They hate the idea of free and fair elections.
They are, in short, fascists.
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IF they are claiming as I read that Dominion voting systems is cooking
ReplyDeletethe count, isn't that defamation, and would that not be part of the
current suit against the pillow filler guy and company.
Do they ever give up and tell the truth?
Would they know it if it hit them between the eyes?
Eck!
Of course, there is this:
ReplyDeletehttps://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2021/09/02/california-recall-experts-call-for-audit/
Seems even the "experts" are not sure that the Dominion stuff is secure.
Note that they too want to use statistical analysis to see if there is a problem...that same statistical analysis that makes people wonder about the 2020 election. Odd, that.
Keep on with the ever more shrill denials. Maybe you can convince yourself.
Every now and then again, need to water the Tree of Liberty ... with the blood of tyrants.
ReplyDeleteFunny how you haven't had a SINGLE post about your boy's clusterf**k of the evacuation of Afghanistan. As far as the election fraud, everybody knows it is there, bought and paid for by the left and covered up by the media and the judges appointed by Obummer and Slow Joe. And what about the cluster down on the border? Isn't THAT all on your boy too? He's the one that cancelled ALL of the Trump procedures that were working. Funny how you're ignoring ALL the s**t your side has propagated in the last 7 months. THAT is all on you.
ReplyDeleteOldNFO, I guess you've ignored the last ten or eleven years of posts that I've written about Afghanistan, which suggested that the Afghan Adventure was going to end just as it did.
ReplyDeleteBut hey, we can go back to the men who set this disaster in motion, Rumsfeld and Cheney, who didn't think it was necessary to stand up a large local army. We can go to your guy, Trump, who cut out the Afghan government when he "negotiated" the Doha giveaway and his demanding that the Afghanis release 5,000 Taliban and Isis terrorists.
"Everybody knows that there was fraud"-- only those people who believe Fox News and the rest of the GOP propaganda network.
Fraud has not been proven. By anyone. All you have is bullshit and weak-brained conspiracy theories to call on.
Nah, they aren't fascists, their trains (or anything else except grift) don't run on time. They're clowns
ReplyDeleteProof requires that one look for it.
ReplyDeleteSo far, everytime someone has brought suit to find it, the Courts have shut that down.
In other words, you won't find fraud because you won't look for it.
Funny how back in 2000 in Florida, the rules were different, innit?
Allegations of fraud require specificity. Courts don’t allow someone to say “there was fraud” and then go looking for it.
ReplyDeleteThose rules were in place for a very long time. Any competent lawyer knows that.
Which brings us to the soon-to-be-disbarred Trumpist clowns.
If Dominion software is compromised the first place I'd look is
ReplyDeletethose skevy CyberNinjas. They would know chain of custody if
it bit them.
Personally I feel they did it to get their hands on the
machines and play as well as image the firmware. I can't
prove that but it works for the lefties so thats my truth.
Eck!
Fergus did have a special commission on election integrity or some such horse shit, and as I recall, they didn't find anything they could make campaign ads with, which was the entire purpose of said commission, because everyone. I mean everyone, knows that voter fraud only exists in Republican propaganda.
ReplyDeleteSo yes, they did look.
And no, they didn't find anything.
And if you think that the merest morsel of voter fraud they found wouldn't have been turned into the NEXT! BIG! SCANDAL! by the goddamn Republicans, then I submit that you may have a propaganda problem.
-Doug in Sugar Pine
And yet FLA in 2000 happened. No proof, no "specificity", merely allegations.... But we held up an election for two weeks or so on allegations.
ReplyDeleteFunny (strange, not Ha Ha) how you missed addressing that.
Aaand again, those double standards keep rearing their ugly head....
If you deny it was a fair election then you are aiding and abetting treason just like the Qs invading Congress. Don't care if you once served honorably or not. Right now you are a Putin Quisling and tool of Russia, our international adversary and usually enemy. It's that's simple.
ReplyDeleteB, Your argument is absurd. Your side makes a claim of fraud then expect others to prove you are wrong. Any 'evidence' offered up by your side has been hearsay, second hand allegations, and innuendo. Nothing concrete that a case can be continued on.
ReplyDeleteAs far as "everybody knows there was fraud" statement by NFO, the only proven, prosecuted cases have been by Republican registered individuals. The claims of voter fraud in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Pennsylvania has already been disproven. That you and others cannot accept these facts is sad indeed.
Dale
What is relevant about the 2000 election is that Republicans used shenanigans, such as the "Brooks Brothers Riot", to shut down a recount.
ReplyDeleteForgotten that have we?
For the but whatabout and distraction.
ReplyDeleteFor those that have short memory or weren't even born...
Florida 2000 presidential election in Florida was in dispute
because the margin was close initially 25 and final tally
576 votes. The mechanical punched cards from the voting
machines didn't always cleanly punch cleanly giving rise
to the "hanging chads" dispute over what constituted a
valid vote.
There was no tampering. Just a question of what a punch was if the
chad was still attached to only partially punched.
Both parties weighed in according to their preferences and wishes
Neither being completely factual or without bias.
In the end it was settled with evidence and put to rest save for
bitter enders who to this day fantasize about it. The significance
in this case is it was decisive, had proof, and was elevated through
the courts backed by evidence. That is very unlike the current and
previous allegations devoid of fact or evidence. The total result
was consistent and Bush did win.
So, your point is? Never mind its never going to be answered.
The goal was really to cast fear, uncertainty, and doubt while
implying facts not in evidence or no plan to present any.
Eck!
With what I said about the actual recount.
ReplyDeleteThe games most visible was a GOP hatched plan later called the
Brooks Brothers Riot as it was intended to disrupt the actual
counting.
The list of players is well known and very visible and yes
they were all GOP players some even recently in prison for
the more current offenses. Least until pardoned so they
could insulate the Drumpf.
Proof, no shortage, but a good start is to wiki Brooks Brothers Riot.
The problem of history is it often makes those that misrepresent
it a fool. Those that takes scraps from it often get the story
wrong.
So what was the real story of florida 2000, GOPers trying to lie and
playing the propaganda games we have come to know well. We can start
with the Big Lie.
Eck!
And yet there was no proof of any fraud or miscounts in the 2000 Florida debacle...., but the courts let the recount happen EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO PROOF, you claim that there is no proof of fraud in the latest election so there should be no investigation. That is the relevant point no matter how you try to misdirect.
ReplyDeleteOne standard for Dems, and another for the Repubs..whatever it takes to give yourselves an advantage.
My side may be assholes, but we are consistent and have morals. You have no standards other than double standards.
Odd how in in instance, the use of statistics matters, but not in the case of the latest election. If you had morals you'd not be changing the standard. I am amazed you can face yourselves in the mirror.
What in the name of Bastet is relevant about the 2000 election? Nobody attempted to stage a coup as a result. The Democrats didn't storm the Capitol to try to stop certification.
ReplyDeleteYou keep equating the conduct of the two parties in the two elections. They are nowise similar and I expect that you're intelligent enough to be aware of that, B.
So why are you trying to cover for the Trumpist coup attempt? And will you be supporting them the next time they try it?
B, you seem to miss the point.
ReplyDeleteThe recount was because to was close to start with and state law
required it. the GOP was afraid they would loose and tried to
stop it and in the end would win.
I'd also suggest the later result where there was a graceful
concession that GOP did win.
Further when the recount was started it was noticed the votes
had incomplete punches. Once how to count them was sorted
out the 25 vote margin would then increase to over 500.
What are you trying to prove? It was fair and honest, disputes
were solved. It was about verifiable things.
Your saying "your side may be assholes" and have morals is
suspect as if we cannot believe everything else that's on
the suspect pile as well. It does not do any positive
thing for your assertions or dispute facts or evidence.
Like I earlier said you brought whatabout and misdirection
into this and got it wrong as well. You got beat by your
own misuse of history.
Eck!