Human traffickers — the victims are women and children. Maybe to a lesser extent, believe or not, children. Women are tied up. They’re bound. Duct tape put around their faces, around their mouths. In many cases, they can’t even breathe. They’re put in the backs of cars or vans or trucks. They don’t go through your port of entry. They make a right turn going very quickly. They go into the desert areas, or whatever areas you can look at. And as soon as there’s no protection, they make a left or a right into the United States of America. There’s nobody to catch them. There’s nobody to find them.No surprise... It's not true.
They can’t come through the port, because if they come through the port, people will see four women sitting in a van with tape around their face and around their mouth. Can’t have that.
“Either he’s watching action films or he’s watching some other type of movie that involves handcuffs and tape over people’s mouths. But in neither case is it based in any reality of what individuals helping trafficking victims see,” said Lori Cohen, director of the Anti-Trafficking Initiative at Sanctuary for Families, a New York service provider for sex trafficking victims.This is one of Trump's big lies and he keeps repeating it.
“His depiction of human trafficking is practically unrecognizable to those of us who have spent decades in the trenches combating these abuses,” said Martina Vandenberg, president of the Human Trafficking Legal Center.
“I have never had a case where someone’s mouth was taped up and they were brought across the border in the way the president described. Could it ever happen? Of course. But I’ve worked hundreds of human trafficking cases, and what the president describes, that’s just not what my life looks like in this work,” said Bridgette Carr, director of the Human Trafficking Clinic at the University of Michigan Law School.
He is one sick puppy.
It's hardly surprising. Even Roy Cohn criticized Fergus' morals, so you can figure it's been that way for a long, long time.
ReplyDelete-Doug in Oakland
I agree that Trump is a moral pervert. But his words describing the human trafficing were not revealing of that. His words were only meant to drum up support for his wall.
ReplyDeleteI have seen many interviews with actual border patrol agents who say that having more walls at certain areas is a good idea and will make their job safer and easier. They almost universally say that they also need more agents, and more money for technology such as drones, cameras and monitors, and the like.
They say that the entire idea that people are coming to the border seeking asylum from their home country is a joke. The one example I most recently saw was of about 8 men who simply walked over the unrestricted border, carrying their suitcases and then sat down and waited for the border patrol agents to come and take them over to the office and do the paperwork on them. They were from India, and were claiming that they were seeking asylum due to persecution because of their religion. The agents gave them a date to appear, and then let them go into the United States. The Indians had come into Mexico and gotten off a bus at a convenient place to cross the border, on the advice of Mexican officials.
These men were not likely terrorists, but they were taking the place of someone who wanted to follow the legal means of immigrating into the country to work and live. We have a broken system that needs fixed. We certainly need to allow for many people to come here for a better opportunity to prosper and improve their lives. And we need to also have the opportunity for people to come here to escape danger and persecution. We are only one country however, and we cannot take the entire worlds persecuted population. We need to work with other nations and set up some form of quota system to allow for a fair and logical system to protect the most at risk people, while not being unfair to any one nation.
And even though our president at the moment is an idiot, he will one day be gone, and we need a system that remains fair long after he is gone.
pigpen51, they followed the rules. When their case is up (in years, because of too few judges and too little funding), their true status will be determined. If it is determined they were not entitled to asylum, they will be deported and will be unable to legally enter the U.S. for a number of years. If they stayed in India, and followed the application process, they would also wait for years with possible similar results.
ReplyDeleteUntil the Immigration Courts are fixed, we are pissing in the wind. The areas where walls would be effective are pretty much already walled. As you note, agents, technology and reform are needed, not a shitload of Chinese steel (check the details, it’s impossible for even the majority of the necessary steel slats for Donnie’s wet dream to be U.S. sourced).
Someone on the Intertubes suggested that The Donald was remembering the "fun times" with that Jeffrey Epstein perv.
ReplyDeleteWell, Jan 6th was his first recorded use of it. He’s varied between duct tape, electrical tape and blue tape, and apparently considers the three of them the same thing. Best guess seems to be something he’s mashed up from his visit to the Mexican border in December. I think Comrade is closer than we believe.
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ReplyDeleteRussian steel. From a specific firm. Roman Abramovitch's firm, if I remember correctly. It's all first and foremost, a big grift.
-Doug in Oakland
I like how you speculate about where the steel for the wall will come from, without actually saying what the president has said about the topic. The president has stated that the steel will come from our steel industry, in order to help them to remain strong and a vital part of this country. In fact, the president even placed tariffs on the importation of foreign steel, to make domestic steel more competitive. I worked for over 35 years producing steel of high quality for the investment cast industry and the aerospace industry, and I do understand that Trump is not well versed in some of the complexities of the steel industry, especially the kinds of steel that would be used in building projects. But at one point, it was cheaper for us to buy steel that we needed in the form of 4 foot long by various diameters up to 5 inches with about 1 inch thick walls, so they were quite heavy, from China, and fly them on airplanes to the United States, than to buy from a domestic source. That was just not right. And so even though it is much more complicated than simply that one issue, due to how things tend to spider web out to affect other industries, placing tariffs on other countries has at least given one industry some help. And here is the article where there is both some of the good parts of tariffs, and also some of the unintended consequences of them. As I said, tariffs are complicated, and Trump is not always one to educate himself on the entire issue of anything. But he did say that he was going to use domestic steel for the wall. Now, it was at a rally, not in an address of all the people, or at some event that he could be held up to that standard, but it sounds as if when he said it, he was being honest. Will he stick to it? Nobody knows, not even himself, probably. He is of course a loose cannon. But I do think that he did not loose at the shut down as badly as many have suggested. He gave in and reopened the government, which is a good thing. During the shutdown, he tried twice to get the Democrats to vote on paying the federal workers, while keeping things shutdown. Twice the Democrats would not let them bring it up. So the Democrats are more concerned in politics than in the workers that they claimed to be fighting for. The president will in 3 weeks time, ask for his 5 billion in border wall funds, and the Democrats will say no. Then the president will tell the nation that the Democrats are forcing the shutdown, and call for an emergency and find a loophole to justify taking the money from somewhere. And of course, he will have had his state of the union speech already, preparing the country for what could happen if the Democrats don't play nice. Trump was not a politician when he took office, but he learned quickly how the game is played in Washington. But of course, time will tell.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.wbur.org/npr/683021544/president-trump-long-a-fan-of-big-steel-wants-the-border-wall-to-be-made-of-stee
Rachel Maddow makes a pretty good case for “Sicario: The Day of the Soldado”. The movie has women duct taped, off-roading vehicle and prayer rugs.
ReplyDeletePigpen51, the problem is two-fold. Most U.S. steel companies have no excess capacity they could bring online in any economically viable manner to fulfill an order for these “steel slats”, due to the tariffs imposed by the Administration. They are committed to other production via long-term contracts. Additionally, Roman Abramovich (Russian-Israeli, a good combination to appeal to Donnie) is curiously positioned in this little story, having coincidentally large interests related to steel production. It is, I’m sure, simply a conincidence that the “steel slats” proposed are remarkably close to some products that certain steel companies produce and tout, and would be difficult to duplicate, eh? Perhaps a certain U.S. steel company owned by...Roman Abramovich? Want to guess where their supplies and materials come from?