“It is with a heavy heart and somber mind that we remember and honor the victims, survivors, heroes of the Holocaust. It is impossible to fully fathom the depravity and horror inflicted on innocent people by Nazi terror.Horsehockey. I suppose it could have been a little worse, for at least He, Trump didn't deny that the Holocaust happened. Unlike at least one of his advisers.
“Yet, we know that in the darkest hours of humanity, light shines the brightest. As we remember those who died, we are deeply grateful to those who risked their lives to save the innocent.
“In the name of the perished, I pledge to do everything in my power throughout my Presidency, and my life, to ensure that the forces of evil never again defeat the powers of good. Together, we will make love and tolerance prevalent throughout the world.”
The Nazi industrial death machine that we now know as the Holocaust was put into motion for one reason and one reason only: To kill the Jews of Europe. Not acknowledging that fact is amateur at the very least.
I read that the Nazis killed 12 million in the camps. 6 and half million were Jewish. Yes. They mean to kill the Jews. That wasn't the whole of their list though.
ReplyDeleteYes, but the Nazi death machinery was built to kill Jews. Once they had built their death machinery was built, they used it on other people. Soviet prisoners, Roma, gay people, communists, political enemies.
ReplyDeleteNoe of that obscures the fact those Nazi cocksuckers set out originally to kill Jews.
And don't be fooled for a millisecond: The Spencers and Bannons of the world would be very happy to continue where the Germans left off.
The Nazis set out to kill the Jews... And the Poles... And the Czechs... And the Slavs... And the Homosexuals... And the Developmental Challenged... And the Mentally Ill... And the Communists... And the Russians...
ReplyDeleteAND EVERYONE THAT WASN'T A NAZI.
They set out to kill everyone who wasn't part of their ideal of Aryan purity.
It wasn't just the Jews. To suggest it was is factually and historically incorrect. Everyone just focuses on the Jews because they bore the biggest share of it. A few million dead Poles would resent the fact that they would be so easily forgotten
" to ensure that the forces of evil never again defeat the powers of good."
ReplyDeleteI don't remember the forces of evil defeating the powers of good in that war. Am I missing something? Or was that a Freudian slip?
And please get over yourselves about the Holocaust not being specifically about the Jews. Yes, it was a war. A lot of other people got killed. The Jews were a political strategy of the Nazis, not a country to be overrun like the others you mention. They were used in a similar fashion as Trump uses Muslims to gain power. Then they were rounded up and exterminated, experimented on, and all of the rest.
The Holocaust is not about the Jews in the same way that the civil war was not about slavery. I don't need to link to the "cornerstone speech", you know what I'm talking about.
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ReplyDeleteSo. If the War had ended with Nazi victory. You think once the Jews were killed, the camps would have shut down and nobody else would be killed? Seriously.
Yes. The "Jews" called as such were a political strategy, which if there were no Jews would have been replaced with another group of people (recall Stalin and the changing definition of "kulak" ... the treatment of which served as a template for Hitler, btw).
The Holocaust named as such is exactly about the Jews because that is who it refers to. The camps killed more than Jews though.
Or to misuse your analogy, if half the slaves were not Africans but say also included Chinese, Indian, Polynesian, Irish, Turks, and Greeks, then it would be a mistake to remember the Civil war a struggle to free Black slaves. Black American's today might remember it as a war to free them and give it a name. If that name became predominant, it might convince people like yourself to forget those Chinese et al. were also slaves.
Question for the crowd. Why is there a day of remembrance for the Holocaust and not Holodomor? It's not the numbers. Is it politics? Is it the elite/leftists don't like to admit the horrors of Socialism/Communism? Or it shame about the rest of Western Antisemitism in the 30s and 40s that makes remembrance of the Holocaust a virtue signaling thing?
This thread is inching into Holocaust denial, which I will not tolerate.
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