The Cimmaron is a clone of the Colt Peacemaker. It does not have a transfer bar ignition system, unlike the Rugers. Ruger revolvers are safe to carry with all cylinders loaded; if you drop the gun and it lands on the hammer, nothing bad will happen. That is not true for a Peacemaker; prudent gunnies load them with five rounds, keeping an empty cylinder under the hammer.
One of the points that has been severely moronic about the Ruger single-action revolvers has been until they introduced the New Vaquero a few years ago, when you were loading them, the cylinder freely rotates in one direction. So if you were loading and you turned the cylinder a tad bit too far, you had to roll it all the way around again. Peacemaker cylinders click into a detent for each cylinder as they're being loaded, making it harder to overrun a charging hole.
Rugers, on the other hand, are a modern design that just looks old. They have coil springs and have a reputation of being bull-strong. Peacemakers have flat springs, they can wear out and break.
This is a comparison of the business end of the cylinders. The Ruger is on the left, the Cimmaron is on the right. The Ruger cylinder is thicker.
Some of the ammunition companies make .45 Colt +P ammunition that is only safe to fire in Ruger Blackhawks and Old Model Vaqueros. Those guns have heavier frames and thicker cylinders than do the Colt Peacemakers and its clones.
Okay, why would I buy the one with the cylinder on the right, instead of the more durable left one? Just wonderin'. Though honestly I don't want either of them -- gun control means hittin' what you shoot at, and I can accomplish that with a .357 with normal loads, with a .45 revolver with +P loads? Not so much.
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Weight for one. Steel is heavy.
ReplyDeleteThe other is being true to it's predecessor.
One is a good shooter, the other is closer to what the cowboys shot.
Oh, and +p loads for not for targets, they are for vermin.
Eck!
My go to gun for carry in the field.
ReplyDeleteA Ruger new model 45 colt, loaded with 325 xtp hp, my own hand loads.
Bit extreme, yet so can life be.
My 220 SIG is for the night stand...
Those that fret about weight of weapons should probably exercise some
Spud, I like the 255gr Buffalo Bore SWCs. A bit pricey, but I don't go target shooting with them.
ReplyDeleteThe Ruger cylinder is thicker.
ReplyDeleteThe machining is also of a far higher quality. I'd say the thickness determines how much machining they can do before they run heat transference problems during the process.
Fixer, the older Vaqueros have a reputation for not being as accurate, which seems to matter to the cowboy action crowd. I'm not that good of a shot.
ReplyDeleteReason for the rep is that Ruger gang-bored the cylinders, rather than using one cutter and indexing the cylinder around. Faster to gang-bore, while single-boring supposedly inherently makes more accurate guns. Ruger went to single-boring out the cylinders of the new model Vaqueros.
I might have to take a sandbag rest to the range and test that. Helped if I were to have a NMV, but I can't swing the purchase.
I have a Blackhawk in 45LC, and it is one of my favorite pistols to carry in the woods, since it has a 4 5/8" barrel and it quite compact. I have it loaded with 300 grain bullets, and they hit with a respectable thump.
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