Monday, March 28, 2011

Glocks-- Toljaso!

I suspect that this particular accidental discharge would have been less likely with a handgun with either a traditional double-action trigger pull or a thumb safety.

Note the weapon involved. Toljaso, I did.

3 comments:

  1. There's a reason why cops like Glocks. You put a typical donut-muncher into a situation where his corpulent ass is on the line and he has to pull his mostly-unfamiliar service weapon (because he puts in the minimum range time needed to qualify and isn't all that comfortable with it) and use it in anger, what's the chances that said donut-muncher would forget to flick off the safety, pull the trigger, and be utterly baffled for far too many moments when the dadburned thing didn't go bangity-bang like it was supposed to? Pretty damn good, yo. Which is why cops stuck with revolvers for many, many decades after the militaries of every Western nation adopted automatics -- revolvers were about as complicated as they could deal with, given their lack of, well, gun skills. And which is also why I recommend a revolver to everyone who asks me, "what kind of weapon should I buy for home defense?" -- if you have to ask, something more complicated simply won't do the job.

    So anyhow, that's cops. But if you're *not* a cop, carrying a weapon that doesn't have a real bona-fide safety (or two) just doesn't make any sense. Note that the additional grip safety on the 1911 was added on after the military asked for it (the original safety was the thumb safety), which tells you that if even the *military* doesn't think a weapon is safe without at least two safeties, then people who think a Glock is appropriate as a home or concealed carry weapon are nuts.

    - Badtux the Gun Penguin

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  2. My memory isn't what it was, but doesn't the 1911 have three safeties? The sergeant told us, thumb, grip, and half-cock.

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  3. Half-cock isn't what I'd call a safety, which I define as "something you have to manipulate in order to shoot." Half-cock more gives a fumbled-fingered person a chance to decock a 1811 without blowing a hole in the floor.

    Series 80 Colt 1911s have a trigger safety in that the firing pin is blocked unless the trigger is held back. Serious pistoleros hate that because they say that it worsens the feel of the trigger pull (and because the spring and plunger for the trigger safety are tiny parts that are easy to lose when cleaning the piece).

    I'm not good enough with a 1911 to appreciate the difference in trigger pulls, though the teeny-tiny parts issue is not insignificant. That only comes into play if you strip the slide itself as part of the cleaning process, though.

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