Saturday, August 10, 2019

Epstein: Suicide or Hit?

I’m kind of busy, so discuss it at will.

20 comments:

  1. Arkancide.




    Then again, at a trial, LOTS of folks might have had their name come up. Lots of powerful people. Lots of powerful people in positions of power in other governments. That may have made people like that uncomfortable....

    So blaming the Clintons may be unfair. Not that it is improbable, but many others are breathing a sigh of relief as well.

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  2. Trumpicide, just because.

    In reality, I hate to go down the rabbit hole, but there are some
    Interesting noises inside...

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  3. Suicide. But with a bit of a nudge. "Nobody would feel bad if you offed yourself, Jeffery. If you don't, the rest of your life is going to be a hell just like this torture unit you're in right now." It'll be interesting to see who ordered him taken off of suicide watch. Though I doubt we peons will ever be told that nugget of information.

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  4. Suicide. It makes perfect sense (there's no way he's walking free again and prison doesn't go too well for guys like him) and is a far simpler explanation that any conspiracy theory.

    Not that those don't have merit, especially CP's "nudge". And yeah, once you go in that direction there are suddenly a lot of possibilities...

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  5. His death won't stop discovery in the many civil actions against his estate, and from what I understand, he didn't leave anyone to contest any search warrants that may be obtained for his various properties.
    So that massive sigh of relief may be somewhat premature.

    -Doug in Oakland

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  6. B, your CDS is showing. The Clintons are out of power with no possibility of getting it back. Trump used to hang with Epstein and, from Trump’s own comments, knew of Epstein’s proclivities with children. Trump likes them young, as well.

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  7. “The enemy is clearly delineated: he is a perfect model of malice, a kind of amoral superman—sinister, ubiquitous, powerful, cruel, sensual, luxury-loving. Unlike the rest of us, the enemy is not caught in the toils of the vast mechanism of history, himself a victim of his past, his desires, his limitations. He wills, indeed he manufactures, the mechanism of history, or tries to deflect the normal course of history in an evil way. He makes crises, starts runs on banks, causes depressions, manufactures disasters, and then enjoys and profits from the misery he has produced. The paranoid’s interpretation of history is distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the stream of history, but as the consequences of someone’s will. Very often the enemy is held to possess some especially effective source of power: he controls the press; he has unlimited funds; he has a new secret for influencing the mind (brainwashing); he has a special technique for seduction (the Catholic confessional).”

    Richard Hofstadter. The Paranoid Style in America Politics

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  8. Can't help remembering this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

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  9. Deadstick:

    You might just have something there...

    And Comrade: As I said, the Clintons aren't the only ones with an interest in Epstein's death.

    From what I hear, large numbers of people in most of Europe's governments have an great deal of interest in his (now assured) silence too...

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  10. You’re the one who termed it Arkancide, B. I don’t mind a conspiracy nut, I object to a cut-rate one.

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  11. I wonder if he was smart/paranoid enough to leave a "dead man switch" somewhere, a packet of film to be released in case of his sudden death.

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  12. Teflon ,Orange Shit Gibbon con men leave no trails...

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  13. I'm starting to lean towards the "suicide" argument, because he *was* facing a fate worse than death (his loss of power / personal control). But the failures of prison oversight are so horrifying in this instance that no matter what the whole damn situation deserves the most intense investigation possible. EVERY guard at that facility deserves review, suspension, punishment. The warden and admins, at that level heads need to roll. And whoever made the final decisions that led up to this farce needs to face a courtroom trial and his own damn cell...

    And if it turns out this WAS a hit... I hope the SOB who ordered gets shoved into the same jail cell Epstein was in.

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  14. Now there's a story that his guards were working "extreme overtime"...https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/11/jeffrey-epstein-guards-1458136

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  15. He died of Epstein-Barr syndrome.

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  16. E was supposed to have lived in pursuit of multiple daily orgasms with prepubescent Kleenex. Perhaps he had withdrawal reactions so devastating that he couldn't face life without them. A sort of Dorian Grey crash.......

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  17. Epstein-Barr syndrome...funny, comrade.
    I vote suicide using Occam's razor. He was facing hell on earth in prison. Most inmates are not pedos and hate 'short eyes'. Especially after he lived the most privileged, luxurious, and sexually corrupt life imaginable. Nothing left to live for. Movie night? A candy bar? New prison uniform? No more young girls to rape, might as well end it.
    But I could be wrong. Putin certainly would have had him killed in similar circumstances. And trump loves to emulate his hero.

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  18. So Epstein's financial lawyers have hired criminal defense attorneys.
    The victims of the case a decade ago that ended with the non-prosecution agreement filed a motion to have the part of said agreement stipulating that none of his conspirators can be prosecuted dissolved in the wake of his death.
    Fergus' DoJ may be worse than useless, but some parts of the judiciary are still functional.

    -Doug in Oakland

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