tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post3558415342151306915..comments2024-03-28T17:41:34.315-04:00Comments on Just An Earth-Bound Misfit, I : GOP's War on Public HealthComrade Misfithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-39824056770526533882015-02-05T08:21:31.448-05:002015-02-05T08:21:31.448-05:00= My mother had polio in '48 when I was 1, my ...= My mother had polio in '48 when I was 1, my brother 5. The two of us were shuffled off to relatives and didn't see her again for a year, year and a half.<br />My mother said it was like having a tooth pulled....all over your body as the virus destroyed his nervous system. She had *courage*.<br />In her words:<br />http://www.sdean.net/molpolio.html<br />= My father was an eye surgeon, was in WWII, Africa and Italian, in an Evacuation Hospital, the closest thing to a MASH at the time. We took him to see the movie...he came out shaking his head, saying,'That's just the way it was, if anything crazier.'<br />Two things:<br />1) Damn betcha we got our shots and the Salk and Sabin immunizations<br />2) My father had had his training at Yale Med *just* as sulfa (the first of the wonder drugs) was coming in. Before them, people (and children) effing died...and medicine was pretty much limited to palliative and supportive measures to try to keep the sick alive until the immune system finally figured out how to fight or the disease ran its course. There was none of the current magic of run-the-test, give-the-drug, bang-the-disease-is-gone. And who cares about prevention, about public health, when there's magic to make the bad stuff go away. Sorry, there's no cure viruses except prevention and immuniztion.<br />My father said this: 90% of keeping a country healthy is public health, is in mandating environmental controls so the disease never starts. Wonder drugs and fancy expensive hospital stays are fighting the symptoms and mean, for basic preventable disease, that public health has failed....or idiots have failed public health.Stewart Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06830186006689502072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-12484230951961109582015-02-04T13:59:55.316-05:002015-02-04T13:59:55.316-05:00I'm an old guy. One day, when I was in the fou...<br />I'm an old guy. One day, when I was in the fourth grade, our teacher announced that Audrey, one of my classmates, had fallen sick the week before, and very sad to say, she had died of polio. That was years before the Salk vaccine. That was also the year my friend Al got a "mild" cases of polio. He lived. But to this day (he is now 76) he has a pronounced limp and his left leg is withered.<br /><br />Now we have vaccines. They keep people from dying. They keep people from blindness, deafness, paralysis, and misery.<br /><br />That is one of the reasons why I personally favor taking idiots, of whatever political stripe who "don't believe' in science and who refuse to vaccinate their kids, and ripping their faces off.<br /><br />Yours very crankily,<br />The New York CrankThe New York Crankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489472134701718697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-82680485340560237022015-02-04T08:28:09.765-05:002015-02-04T08:28:09.765-05:00Mark, the flu shot is always a crapshoot, for reas...Mark, the flu shot is always a crapshoot, for reasons beyond a comment. Not like the MMR vaccine.Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-13320512085029501382015-02-04T07:14:55.507-05:002015-02-04T07:14:55.507-05:00@bearsense:
1st world = Western world incl. Japan...@bearsense:<br /><br />1st world = Western world incl. Japan, South Korea<br /><br />2nd world = Warsaw Pact, Cuba, Vietnam, PRC ("communist" countries)<br /><br />3rd world = all of the restS Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359796414832859686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-36053358741177396622015-02-03T23:58:18.480-05:002015-02-03T23:58:18.480-05:00Well, maybe a second-world country. I think we gav...Well, maybe a second-world country. I think we gave up any claim to the "first-world" ranking years ago....<br />and the race downward accelerates.bearsensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000858896207125033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-27231244986576471882015-02-03T22:40:28.242-05:002015-02-03T22:40:28.242-05:00"What penalty do you suggest for people who d..."What penalty do you suggest for people who don't get an annual flu shot?"<br />Liability for the cost of treating them, insurance be damned.Deadstickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06484321108126882385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-11088831788133406872015-02-03T22:28:37.837-05:002015-02-03T22:28:37.837-05:00Sadly, the GOP aren't the only ones pushing th...Sadly, the GOP aren't the only ones pushing the anti-vaxx agenda.<br /><br /> http://news.sciencemag.org/2011/01/why-prius-driving-composting-set-fears-vaccines?ref=hp <br /><br /> My wife's family is well educated and very liberal...and one of her cousins says that if we vaccinate our daughter we're committing child abuse. Fortunately my wife agrees with me, the kid will be getting ALL her shots once she's born. Especially as her birth mother didn't get the MMR vaccine before she was born-and is now mostly deaf, with a handful of other medical problems. (not because her birth mother was against it-it wasn't available then, but the example still holds.)Snowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09274918120982155791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-6867930761910911742015-02-03T22:06:50.291-05:002015-02-03T22:06:50.291-05:00Just curious. What penalty do you suggest for peop...Just curious. What penalty do you suggest for people who don't get an annual flu shot? Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10837999838469082203noreply@blogger.com