tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post260651390410441636..comments2024-03-28T23:33:45.139-04:00Comments on Just An Earth-Bound Misfit, I : The Little Crappy Ships Have Earned Their Name.Comrade Misfithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-53594370857578034522016-09-05T16:30:40.155-04:002016-09-05T16:30:40.155-04:00The reality is that attempting to build a ship to ...The reality is that attempting to build a ship to commercial standards in a nation which has no commercial ship building industry is just a shitty way to build a ship expensively in military ship yards. We haven't built a merchant vessel here in the United States in over twenty years. We build oil rigs, we build fishing boats, we build barges, we build tugboats, we build yachts for rich people, and that's about it. None of that capacity is being used to build the LCS, which pretty much destroys any rational for building the LCS to commercial standards -- i.e., that the shipyards it's being built in can build them affordably to commercial standards but can't build affordably to milspec standards. Instead you have military shipyards now having to reset to building to little crappy ship standards...<br />BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-58068713903005518962016-09-03T11:21:36.703-04:002016-09-03T11:21:36.703-04:00Liberty ships. They were made better and that'...Liberty ships. They were made better and that's not saying much other than a lot<br />of merchantmen bet their lives on them.<br /><br />LCS was idiots testing commercial to mil spec.<br /><br />The military is still stuck in the dark ages of you uild it and test for quality.<br />The commercial world learned long ago that you design in quality then test to assure its built to spec. Costs less and you get less junk you can't use or have to remake.<br /><br /><br />Eck!<br /><br />Eck!https://www.blogger.com/profile/13890237094647111653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-3942729445046835032016-09-03T10:25:48.838-04:002016-09-03T10:25:48.838-04:00How can anyone specify "commercial grade"...How can anyone specify "commercial grade" and then expect it to pass shock tests?3383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-11483241423663118162016-09-02T20:57:36.831-04:002016-09-02T20:57:36.831-04:00The Flower class had a lot of shortcomings, but th...The <i>Flower</i> class had a lot of shortcomings, but the Brits and the Canucks turned them out quickly at a time when truly "perfect is the enemy of the good-enough". the LCS is more reminiscent of the <i>Tacoma</i> class, which were built to commercial standards and most of them were pretty poorly made, depending on who cranked them out.<br /><br />We gave a bunch of them to the Soviets in 1945 in preparation for the invasion of Japan. A few years later, even the Cold War having begun, the Soviets gave them back.Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-36296717178603601842016-09-02T19:39:43.912-04:002016-09-02T19:39:43.912-04:00I'd be hard pressed to not bet on a Flower-cla...I'd be hard pressed to not bet on a Flower-class corvette not beating an LCS...except the LCS could run away, maybe.CenterPuke88https://www.blogger.com/profile/17770056621255249861noreply@blogger.com