tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post4452575799642155769..comments2024-03-28T23:33:45.139-04:00Comments on Just An Earth-Bound Misfit, I : What is ICE and the DBP Doing?Comrade Misfithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-90758194915792366492012-04-25T23:37:29.303-04:002012-04-25T23:37:29.303-04:00As Badtux says, it's a maximum of 450 million ...As Badtux says, it's a maximum of 450 million rounds, over five years. That's 90 million a year, by my calculation, or 9,000 rounds per agent/officer. Still a lot of trigger pulling if they make maximum use of that option, methinks. Hope they have a good plan for repetitive stress disorder.Cujo359https://www.blogger.com/profile/10385213658828021737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-10296917411630626922012-04-25T00:45:07.481-04:002012-04-25T00:45:07.481-04:00Read the article again. It is for a "maximum&...Read the article again. It is for a "maximum" of 450 million rounds over the course of a 5 year contract. That doesn't mean that they're <i>obligated</i> to buy 450 million rounds, or that they'll <i>buy</i> 450 million rounds, it simply means that the <i>defense contractor</i> is obligated to maintain the capacity to deliver that many rounds if the DHS wanted them.<br /><br />Regarding .40 S&W, as Tam mentioned above, it's what they'll train on at FLETC. If the DHS was intending to impose martial law, they're not going to do it with a sidearm round, you'd see a massive buy of .223. <br /><br />This reminds me of the freakout over <a href="http://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/the-mrap-freakout/" rel="nofollow">the offer of spare MRAP rolling frames by a defense contractor to other Federal agencies</a>, which included a neato-keen photoshop of a DHS armored car that, err, was a photoshop. I parsed the actual procurement data on that -- i.e., the frames became available at the beginning of the month, there were no procurements before that, so any shiny new DHS MRAP is a photoshop, as you can verify if you look at the photoshopped vehicle and note that the American flag on the front is *backwards* because this supposed photo was flipped as part of composing it in Photoshop. It was quite easy to verify that, uhm, yeah, there's a couple thousand spare rolling frames being offered real cheap, and no, there hasn't been enough time for any of them to get rebodied yet and they're as likely to be rebodied as flatbed trucks (what they started out as to begin with) as armored trucks. <br /><br />It's wise to keep an eye on Preznit Hopey Changey, he's proven that the only Change from the Bush administration when it comes to human rights is Hope-washing, but these freakouts are a distraction from the real threats like the new patent law that basically says the first big corporation with the money to file a patent on an idea owns the idea, even if the idea has been in the public domain for decades but nobody bothered filing a patent on it in that time. So you're running a small business selling something, a big business can come in and patent what you're selling and charge YOU for the privilege of selling YOUR OWN invention. That's fscked. But that's the kind of sellout Hopey Changey is. Funny that you don't hear anything about "first to file" replacing "first to invent" in the new copyright law, hrm?<br /><br />- Badtux the Patented PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-40038572969132002232012-04-24T16:26:17.339-04:002012-04-24T16:26:17.339-04:00Scanned comments. "natty" stood out. A...Scanned comments. "natty" stood out. Am I right?nunyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833886980442919570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-21924981779724532672012-04-24T12:08:25.053-04:002012-04-24T12:08:25.053-04:00I'd say that much of that ammo is either going...I'd say that much of that ammo is either going to a few peoples home and or else sold on the black market. That is the way that government works. My Dad was offered a "case" of .45 ACP when he mustered out of WW2.<br />w3skiw3skihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13993709956954374919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-4907121787057628142012-04-24T09:07:35.773-04:002012-04-24T09:07:35.773-04:00Most of it will likely be burned up at FLETC, wher...Most of it will likely be burned up at FLETC, where they provide ammo to visiting agencies, which is... pretty much every agency in the US.<br /><br />Seriously, the internet has blown this way out of proportion in nearly every way imaginable (for instance the contract is not for "450 million rounds" it's for "<i>up to</i> 450 million rounds at X price in X time period".)<br /><br />Also, I'm pretty sure that the human rights violations going on right now are being committed under a different C-in-C.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-44616549034632158282012-04-23T20:11:58.347-04:002012-04-23T20:11:58.347-04:00So even with 20,000 cops, that's still 500 rou...So even with 20,000 cops, that's still 500 rounds per cop per week. How many cops are going to go to the range and shoot ten boxes of cartridges a week?Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-28719883996581308462012-04-23T18:56:43.593-04:002012-04-23T18:56:43.593-04:00That's also Secret Service, BP, and FLETC...That's also Secret Service, BP, and FLETC...Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924773307171301256.post-51884556458874958952012-04-23T16:40:54.497-04:002012-04-23T16:40:54.497-04:00Sounds like someone bought some stock in an arms m...Sounds like someone bought some stock in an arms manufacturer.Nangleatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01908938252272172718noreply@blogger.com